Regional Commuting
#32
Whens the last flight? Whens the first flight? When do you start a trip? When do you end a trip? 3 to 5 is not good. You want to be able to travel the day of. Something I managed to do with Mesa 90% of the time.
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#34
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I used to commute and probably had one of the easiest commutes ever, but it still sucked. I had 4 flights a day (1:25 flight time) all on my own metal with basically no competition from my own airline for the jumpseat. I was senior enough to bid commutable trips and only had to spend 2-3 nights in domicile over the course of 2 years. I would usually just give myself one leg up arriving 1-2 hours before my report and I never missed a trip. Once my commute flight was scheduled in 1 minute before my report time.
Even as easy as a commute as I had I still would avoid it like the plague, at least for a regional. There was still always that uncertainty of if/when you'd get home (sometimes I'd make the last flight but it could be delayed a few hours for wx or mx). Sometimes on weekends with a reduced schedule I'd finish a trip and have to wait 4-6 hours for my flight home just bumming around the airport. Later trip starts were nice but after having to get up at 6 to catch an 8 am flight to make a 12 pm report followed by 5 legs getting to the hotel at midnight still was no fun.
I have been very fortunate to never have had to commute to reserve. That always sounded like pure torture.
Even as easy as a commute as I had I still would avoid it like the plague, at least for a regional. There was still always that uncertainty of if/when you'd get home (sometimes I'd make the last flight but it could be delayed a few hours for wx or mx). Sometimes on weekends with a reduced schedule I'd finish a trip and have to wait 4-6 hours for my flight home just bumming around the airport. Later trip starts were nice but after having to get up at 6 to catch an 8 am flight to make a 12 pm report followed by 5 legs getting to the hotel at midnight still was no fun.
I have been very fortunate to never have had to commute to reserve. That always sounded like pure torture.
#36
It still sucks to commute, but if you have to, it doesn't get much better than BOS-NY.
#37
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That sounds horrible to me. My flight is blocked at about 1:40, but I have 15 flights per day on my own airline and about 10 more on other airlines. There is more than a flight per hour. 3-5 flights means you have to sit at the airport for hours waiting to sign in of go home.
#38
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Do airlines have an incentive to TRY and place pilots in a base located in their home town with no commute? Or do airlines not care if pilots commute?
From a logic standpoint placing pilots in a base in their home town seems like a win-win for numerous reasons: Pilots more likely to show up on time, pilots are less fatigued, airlines more likely to retain pilots b/c of higher job satisfaction, etc.
In other words: If I live in DEN, and get a job at Skywest as FO, would Skywest have an incentive to place me in DEN? Or, would Skywest not care that I live in DEN and determine where I'm placed based solely on Skywest's needs?
*I'm not the original poster. Just curious for my own path.
From a logic standpoint placing pilots in a base in their home town seems like a win-win for numerous reasons: Pilots more likely to show up on time, pilots are less fatigued, airlines more likely to retain pilots b/c of higher job satisfaction, etc.
In other words: If I live in DEN, and get a job at Skywest as FO, would Skywest have an incentive to place me in DEN? Or, would Skywest not care that I live in DEN and determine where I'm placed based solely on Skywest's needs?
*I'm not the original poster. Just curious for my own path.
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Do airlines have an incentive to TRY and place pilots in a base located in their home town with no commute? Or do airlines not care if pilots commute?
From a logic standpoint placing pilots in a base in their home town seems like a win-win for numerous reasons: Pilots more likely to show up on time, pilots are less fatigued, airlines more likely to retain pilots b/c of higher job satisfaction, etc.
In other words: If I live in DEN, and get a job at Skywest as FO, would Skywest have an incentive to place me in DEN? Or, would Skywest not care that I live in DEN and determine where I'm placed based solely on Skywest's needs?
*I'm not the original poster. Just curious for my own path.
From a logic standpoint placing pilots in a base in their home town seems like a win-win for numerous reasons: Pilots more likely to show up on time, pilots are less fatigued, airlines more likely to retain pilots b/c of higher job satisfaction, etc.
In other words: If I live in DEN, and get a job at Skywest as FO, would Skywest have an incentive to place me in DEN? Or, would Skywest not care that I live in DEN and determine where I'm placed based solely on Skywest's needs?
*I'm not the original poster. Just curious for my own path.
Either way they don't really care. If you don't make it to work for missing a commute or fatigue they will just use a reserve. Reserves are budgeted into their costs.
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Do airlines have an incentive to TRY and place pilots in a base located in their home town with no commute? Or do airlines not care if pilots commute?
From a logic standpoint placing pilots in a base in their home town seems like a win-win for numerous reasons: Pilots more likely to show up on time, pilots are less fatigued, airlines more likely to retain pilots b/c of higher job satisfaction, etc.
In other words: If I live in DEN, and get a job at Skywest as FO, would Skywest have an incentive to place me in DEN? Or, would Skywest not care that I live in DEN and determine where I'm placed based solely on Skywest's needs?
*I'm not the original poster. Just curious for my own path.
From a logic standpoint placing pilots in a base in their home town seems like a win-win for numerous reasons: Pilots more likely to show up on time, pilots are less fatigued, airlines more likely to retain pilots b/c of higher job satisfaction, etc.
In other words: If I live in DEN, and get a job at Skywest as FO, would Skywest have an incentive to place me in DEN? Or, would Skywest not care that I live in DEN and determine where I'm placed based solely on Skywest's needs?
*I'm not the original poster. Just curious for my own path.
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