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diva 10-26-2016 07:39 AM

Pilot Salary & Bonuses !!
 
http://www.arwalpa.org/wp-content/up...nd-bonuses.jpg


Flow, Pay or BOTH ? Go!

PSA help 10-26-2016 07:41 AM

There are MANY errors in that chart.

Yumyum 10-26-2016 07:43 AM


Originally Posted by diva (Post 2231565)

They are all screwed. Regional payrates need a complete overhaul. Outdated, slap in the face wages. Hopefully we can all get out ASAP!

rickair7777 10-26-2016 07:44 AM

Yes, chart is wrong.

BRubble 10-26-2016 07:44 AM

Piedmont and PSA are both higher than envoy, so that chart is completely wrong. I suspect many others are wrong, too.

tennisguru 10-26-2016 07:46 AM


Originally Posted by BRubble (Post 2231571)
Piedmont and PSA are both higher than envoy, so that chart is completely wrong. I suspect many others are wrong, too.

How does that chart have Envoy with a 25k bonus?? All 3 WO'd AAG regionals have the same bonus structure.

Also, Piedmont's pay rate is right up at or above PSA and Envoy's for the first year.

Duesenflieger 10-26-2016 07:47 AM


Originally Posted by Yumyum (Post 2231569)
They are all screwed. Regional payrates need a complete overhaul. Outdated, slap in the face wages. Hopefully we can all get out ASAP!

This times one thousand ^^^^^

Hacker15e 10-26-2016 08:15 AM

Uh...it isn't a "salary".

Given that newhires will be on training pay until they're released to the line (2 months? 3 months? More?), those first year pay estimates are....just a bit off.

PSA help 10-26-2016 08:17 AM


Originally Posted by Hacker15e (Post 2231604)
Given that newhires will be on training pay until they're released to the line (2 months? 3 months? More?), those first year pay estimates are....just a bit off.

PSA pilots make more during training than they do when they hit the line. (75 hours a month during training plus 24 hour per diem for the entire time that they are in training)

Also, reserve times matter. If you get a line within 1 year, you can potentially make more money as a line holder than on reserve.

There are lots of factors.

tennisguru 10-26-2016 08:18 AM


Originally Posted by Hacker15e (Post 2231604)
Uh...it isn't a "salary".

Given that newhires will be on training pay until they're released to the line (2 months? 3 months? More?), those first year pay estimates are....just a bit off.

I think a lot of airlines now start you off making normal guarantee right from day one. PSA and others also include continuous per diem during training as well so you'll actually make more in training than you will on the line as a reserve...

John Carr 10-26-2016 08:32 AM


Originally Posted by PSA help (Post 2231607)
PSA pilots make more during training than they do when they hit the line.

So does United ;)

PSA help 10-26-2016 08:36 AM


Originally Posted by John Carr (Post 2231621)
So does United ;)

That is great. I hope that other airlines do as well. I just doubt that it is included in this so-called informational chart.

schmohawk 10-26-2016 09:01 AM

Why is Air Wisconsins in red?

John Carr 10-26-2016 09:15 AM


Originally Posted by PSA help (Post 2231624)
That is great. I hope that other airlines do as well. I just doubt that it is included in this so-called informational chart.

Agreed, it was meant TIC.

As well as to point out similar to what Hacker said, it's not really "measurable" so to speak due to all of the variables.

I thought there was a chart in my monthly subscription of emergency toilet paper (ALPA magazine) that had a chart as well that has "decent" numbers.

The intersting thing was, the wholly owned companies offered more pay than those that aren't, etc.

Amazing what the deep pockets of a mainline carrier can be tapped for when in a bind......

iFlyRC 10-26-2016 12:30 PM

The Mesa yearly earnings are completely wrong. If you sign up for the healthcare for your family, your yearly earnings will be NEGATIVE!!!!!!

higherclimb 11-04-2016 01:04 PM


Originally Posted by diva (Post 2231565)

Sounds like this chart is wrong. Does anyone have an updated one?

highflyer0685 11-04-2016 01:29 PM


Originally Posted by schmohawk (Post 2231647)
Why is Air Wisconsins in red?

It means dont go work there. They'll be out of business soon.


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