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PSA help 12-04-2016 09:24 AM

For us that were already on property, they were provided free.

There is nothing wrong with the uniforms that I have seen. The shirts are junk (seriously...new hires...DO NOT BUY THE SHIRTS THROUGH THE COMPANY!). They are thin and not made well. Even the $15 Van Heusen's are much better. ACutAbove are great.

But the rest of it is fine. Cheaply made in foreign countries, as you would expect, but no major issues.

determined2fly 12-04-2016 09:56 AM


Originally Posted by PSA help (Post 2255600)
For us that were already on property, they were provided free.

There is nothing wrong with the uniforms that I have seen. The shirts are junk (seriously...new hires...DO NOT BUY THE SHIRTS THROUGH THE COMPANY!). They are thin and not made well. Even the $15 Van Heusen's are much better. ACutAbove are great.

But the rest of it is fine. Cheaply made in foreign countries, as you would expect, but no major issues.



Can you provide specifics on what is wrong with the pilot shirt ?


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What 12-04-2016 10:01 AM


Originally Posted by determined2fly (Post 2255619)
Can you provide specifics on what is wrong with the pilot shirt ?


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One ply toilet paper is thicker, they have a very low thread count and are virtually see through.

PSA help 12-04-2016 10:03 AM


Originally Posted by determined2fly (Post 2255619)
Can you provide specifics on what is wrong with the pilot shirt ?

They are very thin and poorly made. The buttons are barely sewn on, and sometimes in the wrong spot. My long sleeved shirt doesn't have a hole cut for the button on the wrist and the sleeves appear to be sewn on incorrectly.

You can see right through it.

If you already ordered them, check them out. They may be better now. But, if not, just send them back. Even if you just get credit, that is better than nothing.

determined2fly 12-04-2016 10:07 AM


Originally Posted by PSA help (Post 2255624)
They are very thin and poorly made. The buttons are barely sewn on, and sometimes in the wrong spot. My long sleeved shirt doesn't have a hole cut for the button on the wrist and the sleeves appear to be sewn on incorrectly.



You can see right through it.



If you already ordered them, check them out. They may be better now. But, if not, just send them back. Even if you just get credit, that is better than nothing.



Not good...thanks for the info. I been hearing mixed feed back in regards to wearing company issued shirts or going with a better brand ...I guess for the folks on probation probably be good idea just to stick with company uniform ?


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cali2797 12-04-2016 10:12 AM


Originally Posted by ag386 (Post 2255560)
The uniforms at Envoy Air make me physically sick. When I see a crew with these outfits on in the terminal, it reminds me of:

4 on 2 off
4am pre assigned RAPs
Big time bonuses for the new hires with a paycut in year 2, 3, 4, etc.
Lost overnights in GSO
Awful reserve rules
Horrible treatment by crew scheduling
Multiple reserve turn backs after the contract says only one is allowed
Horrible and punitive treatment by management
Constant junior man assignments, read, your life doesn't belong to you

When I see Envoy crews, they look beat up, downtrodden, bags under their eyes and ready to give up. All of this for the hope of.....flowing.

Or maybe they remind you that you got fired.

ag386 12-04-2016 11:00 AM


Originally Posted by cali2797 (Post 2255634)
Or maybe they remind you that you got fired.

I gave a 2 week notice and resigned for a better opportunity. However, if I was indeed fired from that lousy outfit, I would look at it as a blessing.

PSA help 12-04-2016 11:06 AM

We just have to wear a white pilot shirt. Clean. It doesn't matter where it comes from.


Originally Posted by determined2fly (Post 2255629)
Not good...thanks for the info. I been hearing mixed feed back in regards to wearing company issued shirts or going with a better brand ...I guess for the folks on probation probably be good idea just to stick with company uniform ?


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Smutter 12-04-2016 12:55 PM


Originally Posted by determined2fly (Post 2255619)
Can you provide specifics on what is wrong with the pilot shirt ?


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Try ironing these tissues
Or when putting our wings, they forgot to match the holes, so you have one pin in a hole the other through the shirt.

E175 Driver 12-04-2016 05:04 PM

I like our uniforms. They are the same as AA plus we get to wear the lanyard.


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