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HighFlight 01-11-2017 12:58 PM

Not sure what you mean about crewtrac login. Minus a few times (maybe 5 in the past 8 months), I have been able to log into CT just fine. Took me a minute to learn there was a new site when it recently changed, but that was a communication issue, not a site issue.

Legal disagreement about the ipads? Hadn't heard, but I guess it's possible. All I was told is that LMS training will be out this month for them, and after training is complete, we will be able to use them. I haven't had to wait since 2013, so perhaps I am more patient.

As for your comment: "Bottom line, come here if you want decent pay, willing to stay in New York, like noncommutable trips, and are willing to take full responsibility for your own career progression, because we have none. " Not quite sure what you mean. Commutability is a personal responsibility, and has a lot to do with where one chooses to live. NY is the hot place since mid-2016, but that will be slowing down pretty soon I'd wager. The focus will be on the rumored new base. And taking responsibility for one's own career progression... doesn't that go without saying for anyone anywhere?



Originally Posted by Green Needles (Post 2279214)
Endeavor had the SSP, with a pass rate around 60%. Now we have a guaranteed interview. You must be a captain for two years AND meet all current OTS requirements to get your interview. Success rate, who knows? Nobody has been eligible to go yet. It says a lot about the major when they tell pilots, you're not good enough to fly our planes/passengers, but you're still good enough to make 1/3 salary."

We can't log in to crewtrac either, our computers are terribly antiquated. We just upgraded to windows 7 a couple months ago. The only thing you can efficiently do on mobile is LMS, otherwise try to find a PC with Internet Explorer. We have Flica, but there are never any green days. All you can do is pick up on days off or trade with other pilots (rare).

We don't have iPads. We have an approval for them, but Delta legal and Apple are in a pi$$ing match right now. Who knows when we'll actually get them. We were supposed to get them in 2013, but the BK happened. Then we were supposed to get them the first week of this year. Now, who knows when.

Bottom line, come here if you want decent pay, willing to stay in New York, like noncommutable trips, and are willing to take full responsibility for your own career progression, because we have none.

If I were in a new guy's shoes, I'd go to an AA WO in a heartbeat. Why not have close to the same pay and a flow in your back pocket should you need it. This industry is very volatile, especially at the regionals. Today's golden child is tomorrow's turd. Today's turd, well, who knows what'll happen. XJT is a perfect example. A formerly top notch airline with some really great people that is now being decimated.


Green Needles 01-11-2017 01:18 PM

Crewtrac does not work with Safari, Chrome, Firefox, Edge or your mobile browser. It only has full functionality with I.E. If you don't have an old version of I.E., it doesn't work. Yes, you can backdrop it by tapping schedule detail, but that's it. Those are all site issues stemming from either Sabre not getting into this decade or the company not wanting to pay for it.

Legal disagreement source, C tower and alluded to in the latest FOU.

Commuting if your responsibility, but very few of our trips are same day commutable as the OP asked. Very few late starts and early finishes, although we seem to be getting a few more 5 days, but they are very inefficient.

NYC is forecast to continue to grow, at the expense of our QOL and OPR bonuses.

Yep, I agree, taking responsibility for your own career is good advice no matter where you go. Is your career worth betting on the odds as they sit right now of 60/40? Or do you wager the odds will be getting better? RJ experience is RJ experience, regardless of paint. Have a flow as a BACKUP plan, and apply everywhere else you want to work.




Originally Posted by HighFlight (Post 2279234)
Not sure what you mean about crewtrac login. Minus a few times (maybe 5 in the past 8 months), I have been able to log into CT just fine. Took me a minute to learn there was a new site when it recently changed, but that was a communication issue, not a site issue.

Legal disagreement about the ipads? Hadn't heard, but I guess it's possible. All I was told is that LMS training will be out this month for them, and after training is complete, we will be able to use them. I haven't had to wait since 2013, so perhaps I am more patient.

As for your comment: "Bottom line, come here if you want decent pay, willing to stay in New York, like noncommutable trips, and are willing to take full responsibility for your own career progression, because we have none. " Not quite sure what you mean. Commutability is a personal responsibility, and has a lot to do with where one chooses to live. NY is the hot place since mid-2016, but that will be slowing down pretty soon I'd wager. The focus will be on the rumored new base. And taking responsibility for one's own career progression... doesn't that go without saying for anyone anywhere?


HighFlight 01-11-2017 01:40 PM

Ok, you mean FULL functionality on CrewTrac, gotcha. I use it on Safari and Chrome, it works fine, minus that calendar view option. But I rarely use it, I prefer FCView.

I guess I am ambivalent on the SSP/DGI vs. the flow thing. If I am at a regional airline longer than 4-5 years, it will be because I choose to stay there for good. (Famous last words, I know...) But I don't count on either one getting me the leg up I need.

Green Needles 01-11-2017 02:07 PM


Originally Posted by HighFlight (Post 2279273)
I guess I am ambivalent on the SSP/DGI vs. the flow thing. If I am at a regional airline longer than 4-5 years, it will be because I choose to stay there for good. (Famous last words, I know...) But I don't count on either one getting me the leg up I need.

Wise pilot :-)

HighFlight 01-11-2017 02:09 PM

Sometimes. Wish I had become wiser, earlier in life. :). Then again, typically with great wisdom comes great learning and enduring.


Originally Posted by Green Needles (Post 2279298)
Wise pilot :-)


Farmlover 01-11-2017 02:40 PM


Originally Posted by Green Needles (Post 2279252)
Crewtrac does not work with Safari, Chrome, Firefox, Edge or your mobile browser. It only has full functionality with I.E. If you don't have an old version of I.E., it doesn't work. Yes, you can backdrop it by tapping schedule detail, but that's it. Those are all site issues stemming from either Sabre not getting into this decade or the company not wanting to pay for it.

Legal disagreement source, C tower and alluded to in the latest FOU.

Commuting if your responsibility, but very few of our trips are same day commutable as the OP asked. Very few late starts and early finishes, although we seem to be getting a few more 5 days, but they are very inefficient.

NYC is forecast to continue to grow, at the expense of our QOL and OPR bonuses.

Yep, I agree, taking responsibility for your own career is good advice no matter where you go. Is your career worth betting on the odds as they sit right now of 60/40? Or do you wager the odds will be getting better? RJ experience is RJ experience, regardless of paint. Have a flow as a BACKUP plan, and apply everywhere else you want to work.

Crew trac works with edge just fine. All functions

crjscum 01-11-2017 05:08 PM


Originally Posted by Green Needles (Post 2279223)
I should mention one other thing: don't count on the bonus. They want to wrap it into the pay rates, but the number our own worthless "union" is throwing around would be a pay cut for more than half our pilot group.

A week ago I would have agreed with you, but they came into recurrent yesterday for the yearly lunch and they had seemed to have changed their tune since last I spoke with anyone in ALPA 2 months ago. One of the guys was the interm chairman and the other is on the negotiating committee. They said their stance is no pilot on property, including reserves and guys with 75 hr lines, takes a pay cut. If they can make that happen we'll see but it was nice to see them actually standing up for it.

HighFlight 01-11-2017 06:42 PM

If they include NH in that, the ones who are getting the $7K for the past month or two, it should be a win for all of us. Fingers crossed.


Originally Posted by crjscum (Post 2279427)
A week ago I would have agreed with you, but they came into recurrent yesterday for the yearly lunch and they had seemed to have changed their tune since last I spoke with anyone in ALPA 2 months ago. One of the guys was the interm chairman and the other is on the negotiating committee. They said their stance is no pilot on property, including reserves and guys with 75 hr lines, takes a pay cut. If they can make that happen we'll see but it was nice to see them actually standing up for it.


OneInTheMirror 01-19-2017 05:50 AM


Originally Posted by Wink (Post 2279197)
9E has ipads, we dont.

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