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Old 04-23-2018, 09:30 AM
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Anybody know what’s actually going on in Chicago other than the typical “they’re shrinking it” rhetoric? Obviously they’re shrinking it, I think the last staffing outlook I saw had a target of 66 crews. The lines are miserable, there’s 6 SY 170’s in terminal 2 for every 1 YX 170. Our trips never see ORD again until go home leg and we spend more time in other bases than our own.

It seems like more and more every month Republic is perfectly fine being an east coast airline that runs everything through NY with massive outstation hubs. I honestly don’t understand what this company is doing. If they want to compete for new hires closing arguably the most commutable airport in the country isn’t the way to do it. The Indy and Columbus pilot pool will dry up real quick and who actually wants to be based at LGA/EWR unless you live there? Very confusing and frustrating.
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Anybody know what’s actually going on in Chicago other than the typical “they’re shrinking it” rhetoric? Obviously they’re shrinking it, I think the last staffing outlook I saw had a target of 66 crews. The lines are miserable, there’s 6 SY 170’s in terminal 2 for every 1 YX 170. Our trips never see ORD again until go home leg and we spend more time in other bases than our own.

It seems like more and more every month Republic is perfectly fine being an east coast airline that runs everything through NY with massive outstation hubs. I honestly don’t understand what this company is doing. If they want to compete for new hires closing arguably the most commutable airport in the country isn’t the way to do it. The Indy and Columbus pilot pool will dry up real quick and who actually wants to be based at LGA/EWR unless you live there? Very confusing and frustrating.
OO is taking over the LGA shuttle. DL wanted OO to start NY flying and it will be crewed out of ORD. So I guess DL agreed to shift all the ORD-LGA trips to OO.
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OO is taking over the LGA shuttle. DL wanted OO to start NY flying and it will be crewed out of ORD. So I guess DL agreed to shift all the ORD-LGA trips to OO.
Sooo we’re just screwed? Is there no one at HQ fighting for us or will they only stand up if another regional threatens IND or CMH? I get it DL wanted to diversify the shuttle, but why do we continue to allow ORD to whither away? Losing AA flying obviously didn’t help but that was 2 years ago, and another example of YX losing hub flying to someone else.
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ORD is the new GSO.
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Republic loves outstation basing, and the east coast. Sad thing is many new hires probably show up expecting ORD, and they have no idea how bad it really is for the Midwest hub. I bet IND has close to 200 captains though.
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When I worked for ASA Delta was the dog. We were the tail. After over 30 years in the business, the dog still wags the tail.

Welcome to the airline industry and God bless.
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When I worked for ASA Delta was the dog. We were the tail. After over 30 years in the business, the dog still wags the tail.

Welcome to the airline industry and God bless.
Doubtful Delta wants to force 15 flights a day through CMH
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Republic loves outstation basing, and the east coast. Sad thing is many new hires probably show up expecting ORD, and they have no idea how bad it really is for the Midwest hub. I bet IND has close to 200 captains though.

So f’ing typical of this company, step over a dollar to pick up a penny. The Republics and Skywests of the regional industry have zero chance in today’s climate. Envoy, Endavour, PSA, Piedmont, anyone with a CPP, etc. are the winners. Republic doesn’t even have industry leading pay anymore! IBT pushed this LOA trash through so we can “acquire new frames” and “grow”, lmao our union was played. I honestly don’t know why a single new hire would come here, unless you live in Indianapolis or Columbus. God bless.
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So f’ing typical of this company, step over a dollar to pick up a penny. The Republics and Skywests of the regional industry have zero chance in today’s climate. Envoy, Endavour, PSA, Piedmont, anyone with a CPP, etc. are the winners. Republic doesn’t even have industry leading pay anymore! IBT pushed this LOA trash through so we can “acquire new frames” and “grow”, lmao our union was played. I honestly don’t know why a single new hire would come here, unless you live in Indianapolis or Columbus. God bless.
You should get your app in with those other regionals or maybe Spirit. Spirit has a ORD base.
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Anyone wondering why the company wants to shrink the hub bases has to look no farther than the last time the bids had to be completely re-run after results were already posted.

For the uninitiated, Flica builds the trips each month based on what it thinks is most cost-effective for the company. These trips are HORRIBLE for crew. Not commutable, awful credit, 75% day trips, etc. The union also builds trips based on more reasonable parameters and targets for QOL. Then the union and company come together on a trip package and that is what gets posted to Flica.

The reason the bids had to be re-run was that the company mistakenly used the Flica-provided schedule solution instead of the union/company collaboration schedule solution. Well guess what the trips looked like before the re-run? ORD and other hubs lost 1/3 or more of their flying. All that flying went to the outstations. Day trips prevailed. As I recall ORD had something like 10 or 15 commutable four day trips in the ENTIRE MONTH for the ENTIRE BASE. Like it or not, Flica hates hub bases for cost reasons and so therefore the company will hate hub bases into eternity.
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