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fortyeight 10-23-2018 07:09 AM

West flying
 
Guys and gals that have been here a while. Have we ever had a consistent presence west of the Mississippi?

It's almost as if Republic doesn't have any plans on being anything other than the east coast airline. If Skywest can get in to LGA whats stopping Republic from moving west? Our codeshare partners? BB's complete inability to see the value in having a western presence? Too far from the Mecca in Indy? I was hoping with IAH opening up we'd see some more (at the very least) southwestern region flying. But all we do is route through EWR or LGA and spend our days twiddling our thumbs while we wait for that EDCT. I've been here 3 years and upgrade in a few months in to EWR, so it doesn't really matter. But western options would do wonders for this place.

I'm sure all airlines are the same, but the lack of information from the top is unreal. We lose American and Delta in Chicago, no word from the company. Lost flying to Airwhiskey, Envoy and Skyw, no word from the company. For all the pros this company has to offer, there sure are a lot of cons. :confused:

pilotdream90 10-23-2018 07:34 AM


Originally Posted by fortyeight (Post 2696315)
Guys and gals that have been here a while. Have we ever had a consistent presence west of the Mississippi?

It's almost as if Republic doesn't have any plans on being anything other than the east coast airline. If Skywest can get in to LGA whats stopping Republic from moving west? Our codeshare partners? BB's complete inability to see the value in having a western presence? Too far from the Mecca in Indy? I was hoping with IAH opening up we'd see some more (at the very least) southwestern region flying. But all we do is route through EWR or LGA and spend our days twiddling our thumbs while we wait for that EDCT. I've been here 3 years and upgrade in a few months in to EWR, so it doesn't really matter. But western options would do wonders for this place.

I'm sure all airlines are the same, but the lack of information from the top is unreal. We lose American and Delta in Chicago, no word from the company. Lost flying to Airwhiskey, Envoy and Skyw, no word from the company. For all the pros this company has to offer, there sure are a lot of cons. :confused:

Did we lose American and delta in Chicago recently? Where can i read about this?

TheWeatherman 10-23-2018 07:35 AM

BB was interested in expanding westward and buying TSA was supposed to provide that. However, when that deal fell through I supposed our prospects of flying to the west coast fell through with that. However, I have seen some more New Mexico, Colorado, SLC, and Montana flying lately.

TheWeatherman 10-23-2018 07:36 AM


Originally Posted by pilotdream90 (Post 2696335)
Did we lose American and delta in Chicago recently? Where can i read about this?

American went to wholly owned at ORD more then a year ago. Delta went to Skywest 6 months ago however I heard we are getting a few of those lines back at ORD.

ChopNDrop 10-23-2018 07:56 AM


Originally Posted by fortyeight (Post 2696315)
Guys and gals that have been here a while. Have we ever had a consistent presence west of the Mississippi?

It's almost as if Republic doesn't have any plans on being anything other than the east coast airline. If Skywest can get in to LGA whats stopping Republic from moving west? Our codeshare partners? BB's complete inability to see the value in having a western presence? Too far from the Mecca in Indy? I was hoping with IAH opening up we'd see some more (at the very least) southwestern region flying. But all we do is route through EWR or LGA and spend our days twiddling our thumbs while we wait for that EDCT. I've been here 3 years and upgrade in a few months in to EWR, so it doesn't really matter. But western options would do wonders for this place.

I'm sure all airlines are the same, but the lack of information from the top is unreal. We lose American and Delta in Chicago, no word from the company. Lost flying to Airwhiskey, Envoy and Skyw, no word from the company. For all the pros this company has to offer, there sure are a lot of cons. :confused:

I'm hoping that is why we are hiring like it's going out of style.. maybe bolstering our depth on the bench to make a run at a few of these contracts that will be open in the '19-'21 time frame? The only thing that makes me hesitant to this theory is that we don't/won't have any new aircraft unless this LOI turns into a firm order.... :rolleyes:

TJBrass 10-23-2018 08:03 AM

The "West Coast" question was often asked during the time WH was there.

"too far from the IND/CMH maintenance footprint" was generally the response.

fortyeight 10-23-2018 10:02 AM


Originally Posted by pilotdream90 (Post 2696335)
Did we lose American and delta in Chicago recently? Where can i read about this?

We haven’t had AA in Chicago in over 2 years and Delta went away the beginning of this year. Nothing to really read about. Republic just isn’t good at appealing to the codeshare partners unless it adversely affect an outstation or NY.

Geardownflaps30 10-24-2018 08:55 AM

We’ve had both crew AND mtc bases in Denver several times. Stay in the industry long enough and you’ll see the flying shifts around over time. Change is the one constant.

Viking6 10-24-2018 10:42 AM

Republic management is very adverse to western bases. Yes we had DEN twice, but only for a total of 3 years. Most was Q400 flying. We also had a very small base in IFP (Laughlin/Bullhead), but we had less the 20 pilots in that base.

Do not come to republic expecting a west coast base. Plenty of west coast regionals, and republic is not one of them.

Tpinks 10-24-2018 03:15 PM

7/9 of my overnights in Novermeber are west of the Mississippi with 4 of those seven being in the Mountain Time Zone.

Sure we could fly more out there, and I would love that, but to say we only fly east of the Mississippi is sort of stretch. Now if your strictly talking bases than it's a pretty fair statement.

glassnpowder98 10-24-2018 07:24 PM


Originally Posted by TJBrass (Post 2696355)
The "West Coast" question was often asked during the time WH was there.

"too far from the IND/CMH maintenance footprint" was generally the response.

I asked the question in ground school when one of the management types made his appearance. This was pretty much his answer adding that to recover from an aircraft going down for mx on the west coast would require too much time and probably a fuel stop from our current mx bases.

With scope being maxed out it would take a large shift of flying to support essentially starting a self supported west coast operation for Republic. I wouldn’t count on that anytime soon.

ChopNDrop 10-25-2018 04:02 AM


Originally Posted by glassnpowder98 (Post 2697278)
I asked the question in ground school when one of the management types made his appearance. This was pretty much his answer adding that to recover from an aircraft going down for mx on the west coast would require too much time and probably a fuel stop from our current mx bases.

With scope being maxed out it would take a large shift of flying to support essentially starting a self supported west coast operation for Republic. I wouldn’t count on that anytime soon.

This.. to add to it, we were told that new bases/size of current bases probably wouldn't change much this next calendar year. FWIW

OffAtTango 03-29-2019 06:51 AM

Looks like we are flying to Tucson, Arizona in June.

170driver 03-29-2019 06:54 AM


Originally Posted by OffAtTango (Post 2792488)
Looks like we are flying to Tucson, Arizona in June.



From where?


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OffAtTango 03-29-2019 06:59 AM


Originally Posted by 170driver (Post 2792490)
From where?


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Denver

June 6-19

KCaviator 03-29-2019 12:06 PM

We’ll be flying to TUS for like 2 weeks in June.

Edit: Ah damn, just saw this was posted above.

TheWeatherman 03-29-2019 12:42 PM

Tuscon?? We are only one state away from the West Coast!!!!

05Duramax 03-29-2019 05:20 PM

What? We're opening a base in Denver. Let's start a new rumor!

stabapch 03-29-2019 08:10 PM

Don’t we have trips to BZN? That’s kind of out west.

direct2entent 03-30-2019 08:36 AM

Holding out for the Seattle base

MuPpET 03-30-2019 08:55 AM


Originally Posted by direct2entent (Post 2793087)
Holding out for the Seattle base

Hold out for horizon, cpz or skywest

Excargodog 03-30-2019 11:25 AM


Originally Posted by direct2entent (Post 2793087)
Holding out for the Seattle base

Yeah. So are a bunch of Horizon FOs who don’t want to fly out of PAE.

I think their odds are better than yours.

;)

fortyeight 03-30-2019 05:23 PM


Originally Posted by KCaviator (Post 2792679)
We’ll be flying to TUS for like 2 weeks in June.

Edit: Ah damn, just saw this was posted above.

Why only 2 weeks? Let me guess, Skywest needs it covered...

And where did you find this info?

captive apple 03-30-2019 06:59 PM


Originally Posted by fortyeight (Post 2793302)
Why only 2 weeks? Let me guess, Skywest needs it covered...

And where did you find this info?

Why would you guess that and how do you find self worth in imaging it?
Skywest is currently only flying 200s on that route. Republics 9:40AM flight is currently a mainline aircraft which down gauges.

fortyeight 03-30-2019 08:06 PM


Originally Posted by captive apple (Post 2793352)
Why would you guess that and how do you find self worth in imaging it?
Skywest is currently only flying 200s on that route. Republics 9:40AM flight is currently a mainline aircraft which down gauges.

Wrong. Skywest operates a 175 on that route.

Random Task 03-31-2019 01:04 PM

Can someone actually answer the question of where this info is coming from?

sn00p 03-31-2019 02:13 PM


Originally Posted by Random Task (Post 2793609)
Can someone actually answer the question of where this info is coming from?

One way is to go to the United App or United site and input DEN-TUS starting on 6/6 I believe.

That’s the only method I’ve figured out so far.

KCaviator 03-31-2019 04:53 PM


Originally Posted by Random Task (Post 2793609)
Can someone actually answer the question of where this info is coming from?

Market Planning under the “Departments” tab on the intranet, then click “Airports Served.” Doesn’t show what the actual routes are; it takes a little more digging to find that info.

It’s a nice way of seeing what our flying looks like for a few months out, instead of relying on stupid rumors on the Facebook page.

OffAtTango 10-25-2019 05:46 AM

According to the December airport list, we'll be flying to Sacramento, Spokane, and Seattle. All on the United side.

amberdash 10-25-2019 06:51 AM


Originally Posted by OffAtTango (Post 2912317)
According to the December airport list, we'll be flying to Sacramento, Spokane, and Seattle. All on the United side.

It's temporary, check the note at the bottom.

170driver 10-25-2019 07:52 PM


Originally Posted by OffAtTango (Post 2912317)
According to the December airport list, we'll be flying to Sacramento, Spokane, and Seattle. All on the United side.



Also Casper, Wy


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170driver 10-25-2019 07:53 PM


Originally Posted by amberdash (Post 2912370)
It's temporary, check the note at the bottom.



That is a note regarding schedule changes mid month, not talking about destinations.


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fortyeight 10-26-2019 05:33 AM


Originally Posted by 170driver (Post 2912752)
Also Casper, Wy


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Denver is coming back. Heard it while at the training center in Indy last month. Working on crew rooms now.

170driver 10-26-2019 05:36 AM


Originally Posted by fortyeight (Post 2912840)
Denver is coming back. Heard it while at the training center in Indy last month. Working on crew rooms now.



Haha! DEN 16.0


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Longhornmaniac8 10-26-2019 09:07 AM


Originally Posted by fortyeight (Post 2912840)
Denver is coming back. Heard it while at the training center in Indy last month. Working on crew rooms now.

I won't hold my breath.

amberdash 10-27-2019 02:54 PM


Originally Posted by fortyeight (Post 2912840)
Denver is coming back. Heard it while at the training center in Indy last month. Working on crew rooms now.

SLC also. Heard PDX and SEA are coming and those 200 airplanes BB bought will be flying for Alaska. /s (or is it)...

amcnd 10-27-2019 03:18 PM


Originally Posted by amberdash (Post 2913577)
SLC also. Heard PDX and SEA are coming and those 200 airplanes BB bought will be flying for Alaska. /s (or is it)...

Ive seen RP in SLC off and on for years. Funny thing is someone will go to Republic for a SEA/PDX base, based off this website.... then complain when it didn’t happen.. (RP and OO are doing DEN-SEA the end of December during the holiday rush..added morning flight.. then ends first week of January)

Burt123 10-27-2019 03:38 PM


Originally Posted by amberdash (Post 2913577)
SLC also. Heard PDX and SEA are coming and those 200 airplanes BB bought will be flying for Alaska. /s (or is it)...

Interesting.

200 planes? Where did that number come from? You mean 100? Part will be used to replace the old 170’s, the rest will be “growth.” But the question is growth where? No room in scope at our current partners.

Haven’t even thought about Alaska. I’m not sure how Horizon is currently doing, but just a year ago they were ****ting the bed hard and Alaska was trying to sack em. I’m sure YX could sell itself to them and that would give OO the direct competition that BB has been raving about constantly. Hot off the press, heard it here first on APC, YX is buying Horizon.....................

Ciceda 10-27-2019 03:48 PM


Originally Posted by Burt123 (Post 2913592)
Interesting.

200 planes? Where did that number come from? You mean 100? Part will be used to replace the old 170’s, the rest will be “growth.” But the question is growth where? No room in scope at our current partners.

Haven’t even thought about Alaska. I’m not sure how Horizon is currently doing, but just a year ago they were ****ting the bed hard and Alaska was trying to sack em. I’m sure YX could sell itself to them and that would give OO the direct competition that BB has been raving about constantly. Hot off the press, heard it here first on APC, YX is buying Horizon.....................

UALPA will cave on scope. They know it, that is why they wanted to lock up all those Regional jumpseats before they do it.

amcnd 10-27-2019 03:55 PM


Originally Posted by Burt123 (Post 2913592)
Interesting.

200 planes? Where did that number come from? You mean 100? Part will be used to replace the old 170’s, the rest will be “growth.” But the question is growth where? No room in scope at our current partners.

Haven’t even thought about Alaska. I’m not sure how Horizon is currently doing, but just a year ago they were ****ting the bed hard and Alaska was trying to sack em. I’m sure YX could sell itself to them and that would give OO the direct competition that BB has been raving about constantly. Hot off the press, heard it here first on APC, YX is buying Horizon.....................

If Republic Was a public company maybe. Not when they are owned by the “3”. They are locked down to them I'm guessing for now.. Horizon has no staffing issues now. They are overstaffed.


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