New hire advice
 

Hey guys, new hire here sitting at home waiting for a class date. There has been lot of doom and gloom on here about the future of republic. What it sounds like is there is no flying coming and to stear clear of the company all together. Is there anyone on here that might have a different outlook. Or is that "KC guy" right and we should all just look elsewhere since its so bad here?

Keep your resume updated.

All regionals suck. If you like outstations and NY basing, or are ok with commuting this place will be fine for you before mainline calls. Otherwise go where your QOL will be the highest.

Was hoping to get PHL eventually, eliminating commuting.

PHL is pretty senior. And shrinking. You’ll get it as an FO, probably not as a CA if you take the first upgrade. If it’s not an outstation or NY it’s virtually impossible to hold as a junior CA.

Don't worry too much about the "doom and gloom". Yes, you should keep your resume updated and always keep an eye on what's happening, but no one really knows what the future holds. It all depends on your perspective: There are things you can point to that suggest this is a very strong company that will be growing in the coming years, and there are other things that would make you believe it's going to crumble. The truth is that there are things happening behind the scenes that none of us know about, and we won't know what will happen a year from now until a year from now. In the meantime, celebrate the fact that you're on your way to being an airline pilot; and, if you're like most others, this is just a temporary stop in your career.

Several people in the last few upgrade vacancies have gotten Philly as first available upgrade. Dont listen to the dom and gloom on here.

The airline industry as a whole is cyclical. You have high highs and low lows. If you choose to take the risk and enter this profession, you need to be honest with yourself and accept the consequences. Nothing that’s happening at YX is unique. Every aviation career whether it’s regional, mainline, cargo, 135, military whatever experiences the same ups and downs.

I can assure that YX as a company is not going under anytime soon. Does this mean that you as a pilot are not at risk? Absolutely not. Pilots sustain more of a career risk than any other. Furloughs, loss of medical, loss of certificate, etc. Mitigate the risk and have a plan B.

APC has a lot of valuable information. However, you need to be very careful with certain posts you read. Learn how to identify pessimistic guys and ones that hold grudges toward a company and steer clear. These forums are often just used for ‘teenage venting.’ Start researching, start learning trends now because that’s the only individual comfort blanket you’ll get. Nobody knows what’s going to happen tomorrow.

The biggest threat to all pilots in this country is a severe economic downturn or a collapse. This won’t just affect new hires, but go right up the seniority list as well. It’s a fact. I don’t know you or your situation, so only you can decide your career ventures. Have a plan B and enjoy the ride.

The only thing constant in this industry is change.

^^^^this^^^^

And pro or anti union, start READING about the history of the airline business. Educate yourself so you have a decent chance of at least understanding the issues that people grouse about. Cheapest education and experience you’ll get is to learn from the mistakes of others.

Our History - ALPA

Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it.
-George Santayana

Flying the Line is, in my opinion, the definitive resource for the history of ALPA. It should be on every pilot's bookshelf.

Republic is still a great place to be at, frankly I think the best. Yes we haven't announced any additional flying, which has created a situation where we are slightly overstaffed. The company has adjusted by basically redistributed flying out in order to better use our pilots. (So people aren't just being paid to sit around.) Guys basically see this and start b***ching on here about it. There really isn't any doom and gloom. Endeavor is in the exact same boat lol.

They need to write volume 3.


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If you look at all the regionals out there, every single one of them have had their good times and bad. While one place could be great now, it could be horrible the next week. I say if your sights are on republic, come. Doesn’t matter where you go-just because things are great now doesn’t necessarily mean that will be the case a few weeks, months, years from now. You’ll understand that when you get some 121 under your belt..

Personally, I have few gripes about this place..been here a little over 3 years. Pay could be worse, get a decent schedule, upgrade time is dropping significantly, and lots of bases to choose from. Plus the 170-175 is great. Culturally things are/have been turning around. Good luck

Doom and gloom? Lol then why are classes full for all of this year? This is still one of the better places to be. Go read the problems the other regionals have and you’ll realize our issues are nothing compared to theirs. This is a fine place to work.

People haven’t had much to complain about in a while so it’s about time for something to pop up. There is an issue next month with schedules but I don’t think it’s going to be long lived and it really wouldn’t affect you.

I hope that didn’t sound condescending, as it wasn’t to be. But it’s my honest opinion that I like working here and I have yet to fly with an FO that says they regret coming here.

Man, I hope I get to fly some trips with you when I get on the line. Some of the guys on here who for some reason just inherently think people born between 1980 and 2000 have no value as human beings is a bit discouraging (I know it’s APC). Good to see a captain with a positive outlook on here! So far my experience with the company and the culture here has been nothing but really positive.

Oh you’ll fly with me, or at least a lot of other CAs like me. There are plenty of us hired after 2014 that are pretty positive. The guys who survived the terrible times from 2001-2015 have every right to be disgruntled. But lots of us are fortunate enough to have missed that mess so we mostly have a different view. And that’s not to say they’re all like that. I really loved flying with more senior folks who have done this since I was in middle school. I hold great respect for them and I hope they get hired at mainline long before I do.

Stay positive, know the contract, treat others nicely, and you’ll find this job a fine place to stay for as long as you so desire.

I guess I just don’t see a bunch of negativity at YX. It’s not even close to what 2012 was, but things are pretty good now. Pilots complain about the company, but that’s normal at any airline. If the complaining gets out of hand in the cockpit, then speak up.

I’m not foolish enough to think management had an epiphany about treating their employees better. It was simply a business decision, which was mainly to attract pilots.

I agree with you. I hope what I said isn’t misinterpreted; I think an overwhelming majority of people are positive here. I certainly am. As a general rule, the most vocal online are the negatives. I myself rarely come on this site.

No worries my comment wasn’t directed at you, but just addressing some comments on this forum. Just pointing out most pilots are content at YX. Not even close to perfect, but still one of the best “regionals” out there.

For folks who have recently been through training or are scheduled for an upcoming class; has anyone printed off the YX study guide? I tend to do better with paper study materials versus PDF format. I priced the printing at FedEx for +$200.00. That’s a color print which would be more beneficial considering there are many color coded diagrams. If it’s not crucial to commit before training then I may just work with the PDF. Thanks for any input.

I printed mine off at home. It's not pretty, but it's double-sided and in color, and then I took it to FedEx to get it spiral bound.

I recommend getting comfortable with electronic documents. During indoc you will receive an ipad with all company manuals, some have more than 1,000 pages. Printing all that content doesn't make sense and you'd be the only person in the training center with a wheelbarrow of paper manuals.

I would use the supplemental guide to get comfy browsing content quickly, use the table of contents and search function. These skills will be essential during indoc studies.

If you print anything, print the flows, limitations and profiles. Do you really need a paper explaining how the the DVDR works?

I wouldn't print it. The early chapters aren't worth it imho. Just go to the chapters with the flows and work on those. Also in the review questions (ch. 9 I think) the blue and red text are memory items and limitations. Good to have those down early. Systems is done with an iPad app that's great so don't worry too much about the systems now.

For a new hire wanting IAH, where does it fall in FO seniority?

It’s a tiny base, and pretty senior. A new FO would wait quite a while for IAH.

It’s been virtually stagnant since it opened. Either Republic thought they were going to get more of Mesa’s flying than they actually got or it’s just another base RPA can use for advertising to shake the east coast and outstation basing mentality they’re known for. Just like ORD, it’s useless.

^He’s right. Opening IAH made no sense. It’s even more puzzling now that XJT is basing their new 175s there.

It was probably due to BB expecting to win some flying from Mesa or XJT that never happened.

It’s a fact that no growth has been announced. Call it what you want, but that’s the truth. Whether or not something will be announced in the future, who knows. Everyone on here seems to think growth is guaranteed. I don’t. Do I think Republic is such a great place to work that I’d give up 9+ months of seniority at another company just to wait for a class date here? No, I also don’t.

I’ve got a class date in May. I’m really excited that the time is almost here! Republic seems like a great place to work. My only concern about is the fact that classes are full (I think now through the end of the year) and it seems like it is already very heavy on the FO side. I’ve been lurking in the Endeavor forum and reading about the nightmare long reserve time their new hires (and not-so-new-hires) are going through. Someone said they only did 100 hours total of flying and they were 6 months out of training.

I’m wondering if my class date in May is soon enough that I will still have seniority and actually be able to fly? If I had to wait until fall to start, I would probably choose a different airline because from what I’m reading in these forums, it sounds like where Endeavor was a year ago.

I know nobody has a crystal ball, but any educated guesses on the fate of a new hire starting class in the next couple of classes, versus someone starting towards the end of the year?

If you don't mind me asking, when did you interview? I interviewed in December, just waiting for a class date now. I know they are very backed up, but I'm expecting probably a summer class date.

I was a December interview. I was updated by my recruiter today to expect a Q4 class date, but those dates haven’t been released yet. They expect some attrition, but couldn’t guarantee anything in Q3. Hopefully that helps.

Can anyone give a brief detail of a recent training schedule? I know it’s 2 weeks in Indianapolis and then 2 weeks home, but after that I’m unsure. Does it stick pretty well to the information given at the interview? Thanks

It’s not even worth 2 months, in my opinion. Unless you live in any of our outstations or NY I’d go to almost any other regional. Way better quality of life in the long run.

I believe it was October. I was surprised at the May start date, but it worked out for personal reasons.

It just switched to AQP so I'm not sure how they're running it now. I was in a standard class when I went through.

2 weeks of Indoc, 2 weeks of Ethos (iPad systems study program) at home, a week back in Indy for Systems review in the classroom followed by the Systems Validation test (I have that tomorrow).

Then, schedules start to vary wildly as they have limited Enhanced Flat Panel Trainers (EFPTs) and sims. Some people in my class stay in Indy and start their EFPTs on Monday. Some don't start until the 3rd week of March. And everywhere in between. I have about 3 weeks off, and then bounce back and forth between Indy and St. Louis for sims and EFPT sessions, with a couple of 5 day breaks at home in between. Checkride is mid April.

From the time I came back for Indoc, it will be almost 3 months for me. For some others, it will be just a shade more than 2. Just depends on the luck of the draw within your class.

This is for a new hire going through Initial under AQP.

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As long as you don’t mind working for a criminal masquerading as a religious man or you’re okay knowing that a former union leader parlayed his access with management into a position in management than you’ll be okay at YX.
Moreover, if you’re okay knowing that management delayed action on a pilot contact for over eight years creating such a toxic environment that they could no longer recruit pilots ultimately resulting in a filing for bankruptcy then you’ll be okay at YX.

Congrats, looks like you just got more LGA flying as SKYW redeploys to the NW.

Is this true? Did the LGA experiment for SKW fail?

Actually PG was management before he was union.