The average first-year salary
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The average first-year salary
I am new here, so please forgive me if this is not appropriate to post. I am trying to understand a statement on a website about the first year salary.It states that "The average first-year salary is around $60,000". So if a pilot is limited to no more than 1,000 hours and the hourly rate is about $45/hour, where is the other $15k coming from? Is there really that much flying and reserve pay to make that, and if so, does that mean once you are off reserve, you actually get paid less in year two? While I know pay will fluctuate, I am trying to realistically set my budgets. Thanks.
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I'm not sure if they are including this, but I've seen some airlines include health care benefits, per diem, and even hotels in the "salary" estimation, and to be clear, none of these are salary.
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I am new here, so please forgive me if this is not appropriate to post. I am trying to understand a statement on a website about the first year salary.It states that "The average first-year salary is around $60,000". So if a pilot is limited to no more than 1,000 hours and the hourly rate is about $45/hour, where is the other $15k coming from? Is there really that much flying and reserve pay to make that, and if so, does that mean once you are off reserve, you actually get paid less in year two? While I know pay will fluctuate, I am trying to realistically set my budgets. Thanks.
However;
In our contract there is a premium for crediting over 87 block hours (125%), overtime essentially.
Sometimes there is 150% (yellow flag) and even 200% (red flag) flying available when there are problems scheduling crews. If you worked those last two items carefully you could make over 45K.
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The way I've heard most folks estimate "salary" (which we don't really get, we're hourly), is add 3 zeros to your hourly rate. Someone who would tell you $60K at $45 and hour may be including soft money.
However;
In our contract there is a premium for crediting over 87 block hours (125%), overtime essentially.
Sometimes there is 150% (yellow flag) and even 200% (red flag) flying available when there are problems scheduling crews. If you worked those last two items carefully you could make over 45K.
However;
In our contract there is a premium for crediting over 87 block hours (125%), overtime essentially.
Sometimes there is 150% (yellow flag) and even 200% (red flag) flying available when there are problems scheduling crews. If you worked those last two items carefully you could make over 45K.
However it is not easy to go over 87 block. It happens but definitely not something common. That's why the threshold is at 87, gives the company a good margin.
Yellow and red flag happen but are not common and something you can gamble on.
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If money is a concern you shouldn't be looking at first year salary any ways when choosing a regional. You should be looking at year 3 seniority CA pay since everybody is upgrading by the end of their second year any way. That will trump any small differences between the Regionals FO pay rates.
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I live in base and average 100 or more hours of credit per month with 85 to 90 hours of block with 13 to 14 days off. Sometimes with red flag I can get more. The 1000 hour limit only applies to block time. The way our trip and duty rigs work out you can frequently earn more than you block.
45 × 100 ×12 = 54,000
But I think they're including the bonus in it
45 × 100 ×12 = 54,000
But I think they're including the bonus in it
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