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FAR121 03-02-2023 05:53 AM

The airline WILL sue for training costs
 
https://simpleflying.com/republic-airways-suing-flight-students/

Most likely the students should be able to buy out the contract after flying at their legacy carrier.

from ACN

Republic Update:

Republic Airways is Suing 12 Pilots, Seeking a Combined Total of $406,550.

Details: https://aerocrewnews.com/ehqu

Excargodog 03-02-2023 07:26 AM


Originally Posted by FAR121 (Post 3600640)
https://simpleflying.com/republic-airways-suing-flight-students/

Most likely the students should be able to buy out the contract after flying at their legacy carrier.

from ACN

Republic Update:

Republic Airways is Suing 12 Pilots, Seeking a Combined Total of $406,550.

Details: https://aerocrewnews.com/ehqu

perhaps. But right. Now they are facing current money due, and possibly the legal expenses for both themselves and Republic.

ninerdriver 03-02-2023 08:57 AM

YX must have dozens? hundreds? of LIFT students in the same boat. If they don't sue these twelve, then there's nothing to keep the rest of the students from bailing for the first carrier to hire them.

saltbae 03-02-2023 10:12 AM


Originally Posted by ninerdriver (Post 3600783)
YX must have dozens? hundreds? of LIFT students in the same boat. If they don't sue these twelve, then there's nothing to keep the rest of the students from bailing for the first carrier to hire them.

payment plan if $100/month and they’re fine.

Excargodog 03-02-2023 12:15 PM


Originally Posted by saltbae (Post 3600837)
payment plan if $100/month and they’re fine.

Naa. More likely they’ll want to hammer them to discourage the others.

And add interest

And court costs.

APCHCLIMB 03-02-2023 12:36 PM

Meh. I think it’s more interesting that it never occurs to anyone to fulfill their obligations. And when you don’t there might be legal consequences.

When you make bedfellows with the regionals you get what you pay for.

saltbae 03-02-2023 12:40 PM


Originally Posted by Excargodog (Post 3600925)
Naa. More likely they’ll want to hammer them to discourage the others.

And add interest

And court costs.

that’s not how debt works, but ok.. can’t make money magically appear from someone

rickair7777 03-02-2023 01:18 PM


Originally Posted by saltbae (Post 3600941)
that’s not how debt works, but ok.. can’t make money magically appear from someone

If you have certain assets, they can attach those. They can also attach your paycheck if you have a job. By "they" I mean the courts, a lessor can only size collateral that was part of the original deal, such a lien on a house. That's why they sue them.

Normally it's not a cost-effective for an average citizen to sue someone and jump through hoops to collect on the judgement. But for a large company, trying to make a point it might be worthwhile.

SnowmanKiller 03-02-2023 01:22 PM

From the sound of it, the deal was "we pay you and you come fly for us for X years"

There may or may not have been a clause to release these guys, but that is besides the point.

The idea that such a student is supposed to sit idly by for almost a year waiting for a job after being trained by Republic's flight school should likely get laughed out of court. Of course, the purpose for Republic is not to win but to financially ruin these individuals as a lesson to others.

Court cases are a line item for corporations, and an empty bank account for you. Just remember that when you think questions like "justice" or what is right is what this is about.

It is about control.

You are a peasant. A skilled peasant, but a peasant still.

Excargodog 03-02-2023 01:40 PM


Originally Posted by saltbae (Post 3600941)
that’s not how debt works, but ok.. can’t make money magically appear from someone


The French phrase is, Pour encourager les autres.

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dict...20les%20autres

But if you don’t believe what I wrote, feel free to sign up on one of these “deals” and find out the hard way.

https://millerlawpc.com/6-remedies-breach-of-contract/




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