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Originally Posted by ColdWhiskey
(Post 1071815)
You are confused. BB is selling ERJs because they are unprofitable in the branded operation. One of two scenarios is likely.
1. He will BUY Airbus aircraft with the money he gets from selling ERJs. 2. The buyer of Frontier doesn't want the 190s and they can't be used elsewhere in the RAH network. |
Originally Posted by ColdWhiskey
(Post 1071779)
One list would have been fine if it was a realistic list that was fair and equitable to all parties. Unfortunately, the IBT chose not to participate in a reasonable mediation with the other parties.
Instead the IBT 'shot for the moon' with arbitrator Eishen and got it. The resulting lopsided, unrealistic SLI guaranteed that the groups could never work together on any kind of 'one list', and as such, guaranteed a separation/sale of the Frontier product. If the IBT had agreed to a reasonable mediated solution, 'one list' could have been workable and beneficial for all parties. Instead, you will see Frontier sold. You will also see your 190s and some smaller branded ERJs disappear. Thank you IBT. |
Fair to a f9 guy is to staple everyone else below them. What is fair is the current SLI that all parties agreed to binding arbitration.
Why don't you guys get that? |
Originally Posted by ColdWhiskey:1071779
Originally Posted by PurdueFlyer
(Post 1071712)
And let them walk all over section 1 of the contract? Yeah not a smart idea. It's important for the entire RAH family to have one list to avoid whipsaw.
Instead the IBT 'shot for the moon' with arbitrator Eishen and got it. The resulting lopsided, unrealistic SLI guaranteed that the groups could never work together on any kind of 'one list', and as such, guaranteed a separation/sale of the Frontier product. If the IBT had agreed to a reasonable mediated solution, 'one list' could have been workable and beneficial for all parties. Instead, you will see Frontier sold. You will also see your 190s and some smaller branded ERJs disappear. Thank you IBT. Just want to make one point clear, we would LOVE to see the frontier side sold. RAH would lose a few airplanes, but its a small price to pay for ridding yourself of an endless money pit. On that note, as long as f9 is a part of RAH, there needs to be one list, end of story. |
Where are these planes coming from? Are they getting rid of 170's too?
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Originally Posted by flyguy23
(Post 1071903)
Just want to make one point clear, we would LOVE to see the frontier side sold. RAH would lose a few airplanes, but its a small price to pay for ridding yourself of an endless money pit. On that note, as long as f9 is a part of RAH, there needs to be one list, end of story.
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Does this mean when the 190s are sold they will get rid of the 190 crews like they did with the 717 crews?
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Originally Posted by division1TE
(Post 1071967)
170s aren't going anywhere, Shuttle and RPA fly the 170s for Delta, UAL, CAL, and airways
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I could be wrong but sounds to me like contract negotiations a la bb style. Doom and gloom has always been this guys M.O and we're getting down to the 2 minute warning
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Originally Posted by Car Ramrod:1071912
Originally Posted by flyguy23
(Post 1071903)
Just want to make one point clear, we would LOVE to see the frontier side sold. RAH would lose a few airplanes, but its a small price to pay for ridding yourself of an endless money pit. On that note, as long as f9 is a part of RAH, there needs to be one list, end of story.
As much as you hate it, its just seniority. The list is what it is no matter how much you wish otherwise. If a sale occurs, there are many variables to consider. Does the fence ensure only f9 pilots go? Better question is will the buyer want to keep the pilots? A million things need to happen before a lawsuit would be in consideration. To answer your question directly, i dont have a clue what the ibt would do. |
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