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Originally Posted by SUX4U
(Post 1349559)
This is the type of info I was hoping to get as I was not really sure how this whole thing is playing out for all parties involved. I Understand why the American Eagle Airlines pilots would be upset about this encroachment on their comfort zone. But ultimately it just sounds like the cards dealt to these pilots in the AMR bankruptcy are rather unfavorable to say the least. I am sorry to see your pilot group getting backdoored like this. Best of luck to you American Eagle Airlines pilots.
The cheapest pilot wins.........well, kinda. |
Originally Posted by SUX4U
(Post 1349559)
This is the type of info I was hoping to get as I was not really sure how this whole thing is playing out for all parties involved. I Understand why the American Eagle Airlines pilots would be upset about this encroachment on their comfort zone. But ultimately it just sounds like the cards dealt to these pilots in the AMR bankruptcy are rather unfavorable to say the least. I am sorry to see your pilot group getting backdoored like this. Best of luck to you American Eagle Airlines pilots.
The cheapest pilot wins.........well, kinda. If the name of your airline is nothing more than a brand, wait until Delta United and the rest license the brand to the lowest bidder. AMR is setting a new precedent and thus us the foot in the door just as baby jets for regionals was 20 years ago. |
Originally Posted by Mason32
(Post 1349588)
Actually it's not the same. As I see it once they created Eagle 16 years ago anybody on their pilot list flew as American Eagle. To this day pilots if executive airlines are in the master Eagle pilot seniority list and they operate as American Eagle. During those past 16 years when AMR contracted out flying as they did with TSA and CHQ the contractors used the American Connection brand.
If the name of your airline is nothing more than a brand, wait until Delta United and the rest license the brand to the lowest bidder. AMR is setting a new precedent and thus us the foot in the door just as baby jets for regionals was 20 years ago. The majority of regional pilots couldn't care less what "brand" their shiny and not so shiny jets have as long as it gets them to the captain seat and out as fast as possible. You'll find no loyalty in the regional pilot business anymore as its pilot-eat-pilot and any rationalization works. That's why many at Eagle told me the flying they now do that used to be AA's was never AA's or their pilots, but AMR's. Now the shoe is on the other foot and suddenly it's not so comfortable anymore. Again, its happening everywhere else and those on the acquisition end justify it and those on the other cry about the injustice. Sooner or later, you switch ends and go from justification to crying. The only thing new here, is that it's finally gotten around to American Eagle or what USED to be American Eagle. |
Originally Posted by Mason32
(Post 1349588)
Actually it's not the same. As I see it once they created Eagle 16 years ago anybody on their pilot list flew as American Eagle. To this day pilots if executive airlines are in the master Eagle pilot seniority list and they operate as American Eagle. During those past 16 years when AMR contracted out flying as they did with TSA and CHQ the contractors used the American Connection brand.
If the name of your airline is nothing more than a brand, wait until Delta United and the rest license the brand to the lowest bidder. AMR is setting a new precedent and thus us the foot in the door just as baby jets for regionals was 20 years ago. The majority of regional pilots couldn't care less what "brand" their shiny and not so shiny jets have as long as it gets them to the captain seat and out as fast as possible. You'll find no loyalty in the regional pilot business anymore as its pilot-eat-pilot and any rationalization works. That's why many at Eagle told me the flying they now do that used to be AA's was never AA's or their pilots, but AMR's. Now the shoe is on the other foot and suddenly it's not so comfortable anymore. Again, its happening everywhere else and those on the acquisition end justify it and those on the other cry about the injustice. Sooner or later, you switch ends and go from justification to crying. The only thing new here, is that it's finally gotten around to American Eagle or what USED to be American Eagle. As for contracts. You better read again what we passed. Read about codesharing, livery and franchising. Whats happening at Eagle is just a test. |
Originally Posted by Mason32
(Post 1349772)
First, it isn't my union. I just have good friends working there. I read your posts, you're a FT who now thinks your better than everybody else; we get it. When you graduate to 76I I'll even let you swing gear for me. Hurry up though I'm going to do my last few years on the new 7's.
As for contracts. You better read again what we passed. Read about codesharing, livery and franchising. Whats happening at Eagle is just a test. Really. |
Originally Posted by Mason32
(Post 1349772)
First, it isn't my union. I just have good friends working there. I read your posts, you're a FT who now thinks your better than everybody else; we get it. When you graduate to 76I I'll even let you swing gear for me. Hurry up though I'm going to do my last few years on the new 7's.
Originally Posted by Mason32
(Post 1349772)
As for contracts. You better read again what we passed. Read about codesharing, livery and franchising.
Whats happening at Eagle is just a test. You been hanging around......... |
Originally Posted by RJ Pilot
(Post 1349777)
I dont know whats JJ Eaglefly's obsession with Eagle.
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Originally Posted by eaglefly
(Post 1349807)
....knuckledragger's like this guy too much (who....*sigh*, AGAIN, just gave the finger to the mods request) ?
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Originally Posted by What
(Post 1349833)
You come in trolling and when someone trolls back you play the "mods, please help me card". You left the regional airlines not by choice we get it, but if you want in again just apply, they'll even give you five grand!
Um,.....ok. :cool: I'm not asking anything frrom the mods (man, you make a lot of erronous assumptions) as I'm not the person this knuckledragger keeps outing.....and again, it's clear he totally has no control over himself. Why don't you, RJ and Mason just put me on ignore and solve your problems ? Answer : Because you don't want to disregard or not hear what I say, but CONTROL it. Read my posts.........all I did was highlight the fact that Eagle is the latest carrier to have any identity it had stripped away and sure enough, certain characters go hysterically type A, running in the wrong direction. Most read it and move on and saw no reason to get emotional. Why is it always the same members who get emotional ? Seriously dude, solve your problems and do yourself a favor...........put me on ignore. |
Originally Posted by eaglefly
(Post 1349866)
Now I want back into a regional airline ?
Um,.....ok. :cool: I'm not asking anything frrom the mods (man, you make a lot of erronous assumptions) as I'm not the person this knuckledragger keeps outing. Why don't you, RJ and Mason just put me on ignore and solve your problems ? Answer : Because you don't want to disregard or not hear what I say, but CONTROL it. Read my posts.........all I did was highlight the fact that Eagle is the latest carrier to have any identity it had stripped away and sure enough, certain characters go hysterically type A, running in the wrong direction. Most read it and move on and saw no reason to get emotional. Why is it always the same members who get emotional ? Seriously dude, solve your problems and do yourself a favor...........put me on ignore. |
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