Are you speaking of management operating in the grey area between an accident and safety? How airlines operate on the great area and everyday push it as far away from safety as possible as the safer side cost money.

I'm not sure exactly what you're asking. But the book I mentioned does not only apply to management as part of the title might imply. It gives a great account of the actual implementation of safety (SMS) along with explaining associated costs and other variables of SMS.

To say that an airline (or any business) intentionally errors on the side of pushing "it [safety] as far away from safety as possible" is inaccurate. Sure there is a cost to safety but the costs of NOT implementing safety measures (an entire SMS, as outlined by ICAO and the FAA) can potentially far outweigh any cost implementations.

The point is that EVERY airline has safety measures in place. That is to say a SMS program to one degree or another. ICAO has mandated it and the FAA has/is implementing it. There is no choice in the matter and as part of a SMS program the officer in charge must proactively mitigate ALL risks and identify current and future risk relating to all aspects of the operation, not just flight. Surely this costs money, but is a necessary obligation of any 121 carrier...but over time, the costs of NOT implementing will most likely exceed those of implementing.

Feel free to send me a PM regarding SMS if you want so that I don't continue to get off subject and bore people on this thread.

What else do you expect,,, just another day at Republic,, and yes we all know they're doing a ****ty job.
And they call themselves airline pilots?? Ha! LOL

Lol. So speaks the Eagle F.O. who claims he works for a "major U.S. airline." Man some of you guys are brainwashed down there in Texas with some powerful suds. Quit taking yourself so seriously and do a little research on some of the accidents your "major U.S. airline" has been involved in in the past. A little humility and compassion would serve you well. It remains to be seen if pilot error contributed to this excursion. And if it did spend time putting yourself in your brother aviator's shoes and learn from their unfortunate mishap instead of rushing to put them down for a mistake you could just as easily make. I hope you didn't let the interviewers at your Spirit interview see your toolish side. :rolleyes:

Agreed 100%. Amusing though.

I never understood why AE, XJET, and Comair pilots on the internet think they are the only elite cadre of pilots capable of flying airplanes designed to be flown by the lowest common denominator in 3rd world countries. We all have it in us to put an airplane in the weeds.

You could say the same thing about an A320….

I have and will continue to.

****, all across Europe 23 year old kids go straight from piston twins to flying the A320 series, the same way they do RJs here.

Moral of the story, get over yourself.

Try 19 year olds. Three of my flight college training class went straight to BA at 19. Two on to the A320 and one on to the 737. All three are now on the 777 at the age of 27.