Disregard. When you assume....

Repeat after me.

You. Are. Wrong.

Pilots are not easily trained in a short period of time like McDonalds workers can be. The airlines know this, that is why they are panicking now.

Repeat after me.

Pilots. Do. Have. Leverage.

What's that saying? You can teach a monkey to fly.

Republic pilots are proof. :D How's the fabulous JetBlue or better contract coming along?

If you cannot get on with Republic, where do you go?
:-)

With people constantly going to places like RAH or with PSA voting in that concessionary contract to secure new airplanes, HOW do we have leverage? We have POTENTIAL leverage, yes, but no ACTUAL leverage.

If people stopped going to RAH with their current contract or anytime ANY concessionary contract shows to immediately vote it down, we could have leverage. But I say again

We have NO leverage.

Skywest, Republic, PSA, XJet provides better career advancements than Eagle does.

What does L-AE has to offer?

Doing more overnight trucking? I was amazed it went 5 pages with out you chiming in. I know you have no life outside trolling APC, what gives buddy? You getting soft in your trucking days?

A rumor surfaced briefly, and was recently proven wrong, that there would be no Eagle pilots in the Dec 4th class at AA. I was surprised you didnt come over here and start a new thread along the lines of "Eagle pilots NOT FLOWING TO AA IN DECEMBER!"

Turns out the class is entirely Eagle pilots.

Oh, also I guess I just answered you question too.

Keep on truckin buddy!

their website still says 100 multi?:confused:

Never said that. Entirely 20 flows in that class, as originally planned so, nothing new there. No second class in DEC. Right now they are back logged in training, so Id be surprised how many will go in jan.

Alpa still waiting on 824 metering grievance, that might stop the flow….

I honestly don't know why a west coaster would apply at Eagle. Compass would bet first choice followed by Skywest and that's it.

I also have family in NE Ohio and W Pennsylvania. Wouldn't mind CLE or PIT as a domicile. Other than that, I prefer SkyWest to its multitude of bases in the west.

That can change with the stroke of a pen. I've been predicting it since the 1500 rule became law.

The airlines are intentionally putting themselves into a dire situation regarding pilot supply in order to force congress' hand into allowing a EU-style frozen ATP. Such a program could put someone with no time in the right seat of an airliner in 12-18 months.

Some form of it will be coming along, most likely within the next five years. The only saving grace is that such programs are very expensive, and the airlines are going to have to do something to give potential pilots an incentive to lay out that much cash and make loans for such training look even reasonably feasible for lenders.

Of course, that little problem can be solved by off-the-street hiring and airline sponsorship in such a program.......

Check AirlineApps: 1000* Total Time, 0 PIC, 0 Turbine, 50 Multi

Eagle doesn't have a CLE or PIT domicile.

Yep, but that's what led to my original post about my dilemma and included Republic since they have both a CLE and PIT domicile. I hear ya though about a west coaster and east coast domiciles. Eagle is considered merely for the 50 multi requirement, but I cringe at the thought of being based on the other side of the country (other than CLE or PIT).

If I was applying to regionals today and I lived on the west coast it would be Compass > Skywest. Honestly if you can get on at Compass I think you'll be in good shape regardless of where you live.

You, old man, are a disgrace and black eye to the aviation industry. Gawd you must be on a lot of avoid lists.

Thanks for the advice, Bzzt! Much appreciated!!

what is so bad about republic?

Hmm.

No contract since 2007. Working under 2003 rates and work rules. Mgmt doesn't want to negotiate and doesn't value or respect pilot group. I'd be here all day listing issues. Just read around.

To the OP. Throw a dart at a dart board and go to SkEaPublic.

What do u mean no contract since 2007?
The pay sucks at all regionals its a stepping stone i think upgrade time is what matters the most to most pilots at the time !

Contract expired in 2007 and company walks all over it.

Not really. It's been proven time and time again that what could be a quick upgrade at one place could turn around and be a 10 year upgrade by the time you get on property. Upgrade time is a bit of a misnomer because it assumes that everything will continue along the same track it is now. When has ANYTHING in this industry ever remained static for a long period of time (6+ months).

While people chose their airline for a variety of reasons, upgrade time is one of them, most people tend to do it for quality of life reasons.

Regionals have become less of a stepping stone and more of a base camp for many. Possibly moving on but also possible to take high quality of life over paycheck.

Upgrade times can change overnight. Skywest had 8-12 month upgrades in 2006. The people hired in late 2007 and early 2008 who came there expecting a 1 year upgrade are still waiting to upgrade today.

It's probably better to pick a regional that you wouldn't mind being at if something like that happened again. I would hate to get stuck commuting across the country as an RJ FO for 7 years because I went to a company expecting a 1 year upgrade that didn't happen.

You should come to Endeavor... They would love you here.

There are also several thousand regional CA's going on 10-15 years that thought they would be at a major in 4 years too! The regionals since 9/11 for the most part haven't been "stepping stones," more like the "highway to hell."

I wouldn't go that far. I enjoy my job at a regional because I picked the one that I thought I would enjoy the most if I got stuck here. I would love to go to a major and get a 400% pay raise for doing exactly the same thing, but I can't say I hate my job at a regional.

Oh great, the "stepping stone" argument. Scott Kirby is that you?

Upgrade times are BS. The contract at rah is a joke and Bedford will never treat pilots like human beings. Hes a slob of a ceo. Good luck man

People with this level of grammar, punctuation, and speech ( not to mention the mentality) need to go to Republic.

They deserve each other.

The rest of you with any level of education and self respect would do well by staying as far away from Republic as possible.

Can I ask where you are?

But he was so compassionate on Undercover Boss!! Yeah right, I couldn't stop laughing when I saw that. GMAFB

That show should do follow up research and nail all those liars:)

With writing skills like that and your obvious inability to do even basic research by using this very message board, I'd suggest another career path.

I am not kidding.

You would fit right in at Brownstreak...:eek:

I agree with you. I enjoy my job as well. Could it be better? Absolutely, but it could also be much worse. I try to be part of the solution, not the problem.

To the OP, you never know what will happen in the future, so you need to plan for the worst and hope for the best (my mama always said that). Pick an airline with a base you would like to live in, has good (relatively) work rules, and the best pay you can get. That probably means Skywest for you. After talking to guys from Republic, I would not go there.

People who post and slew absolutely meaningless drivel; such as came out of your mouth; need to leave the industry. Or invest in a noose.

I think there are more people who would love to leave this industry than you think. I for one am nowhere near where I thought id be, but the cost of changing careers is prohibitive.