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Originally Posted by TBucket
(Post 1761132)
Looks like they were going for the same technique seen here... From the boeing flight test team, who probably know how to land airplanes...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_z2LtHrn9Jw |
Originally Posted by TBucket
(Post 1761132)
Looks like they were going for the same technique seen here... From the boeing flight test team, who probably know how to land airplanes...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_z2LtHrn9Jw Maybe they were testing side load limits as opposed to demonstrating good crosswind technique. I don't know though... As the saying goes: "There are 3 secrets to a perfect landing.... but no pilot knows what they actually are." Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk |
Originally Posted by TBucket
(Post 1761132)
Looks like they were going for the same technique seen here... From the boeing flight test team, who probably know how to land airplanes...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_z2LtHrn9Jw Further, watch Airbus test pilots land in OSH w/ a crosswind and get raked over the coals. A380 Hard Landing at Oshkosh - YouTube Stop making excuses for poor airmanship. |
Most transport airliners are certified to land in a full crab at max demo crosswind.
Not that it's optimum, though. I watched that video and kept thinking "ok he's going to kick it out now... maybe now? ...nevermind." It's impressive that they stayed on the centerline as well as they did with that amount of sideloading. |
Originally Posted by 121isnofun
(Post 1761165)
That was a flight test crew demonstrating that improper crosswind technique won't destroy the aircaft... Don't confuse that video with a "How to" video on landing in a crosswind.
Further, watch Airbus test pilots land in OSH w/ a crosswind and get raked over the coals. A380 Hard Landing at Oshkosh - YouTube Stop making excuses for poor airmanship. |
Originally Posted by DENpilot
(Post 1761061)
Fine job? Do you think his flight instructor said that when he landed his 172 like that?
That landing was complete ****. It's one thing to use correct technique and plant it on, but it's another to just have a lack of flying skills. What he should have done was divert like the hundreds of other flights that day. Clear enough for ya now? :rolleyes: (What's the technique over there at Mesa?) |
Originally Posted by thump
(Post 1761134)
Max demonstrated on the type is 38kts for a dry runway, Republic's limitation is 28kts with an allowance for gusts above that. |
Microsoft FlightSim X?
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Originally Posted by Ar Pilot
(Post 1761170)
They're ribbing them for slamming hard. Nothing to do with their (proper) crabbed technique.
I posted the vid simply to say landings like that must be the exception and not the rule. And while no doubt the aircraft are designed to withstand as much, limitations are NOT goals. Just because the aircraft can (land in a crab) doesn't mean you should. |
Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp
(Post 1761169)
I watched that video and kept thinking "ok he's going to kick it out now... maybe now? ...nevermind."
It's impressive that they stayed on the centerline as well as they did with that amount of sideloading.
Originally Posted by JustAMushroom
(Post 1761193)
Max demo is not a limit.
For folks not familiar with Republic's SOP, we are hard limited to 28kts crosswind, which is a less than the max demonstrated, which I mention for people not familiar with the type. As an additional datapoint, S5 (Shuttle America) has no limitation. Their SOP actually just lists the max demonstrated for various conditions. Which is NOT how the YX manual reads, even though we are the same company. |
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