Republic passes the "last best offer"
 

Republic passes the "last best offer"

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Curious as to how this plays out and what it means for the regionals as a whole. They've held the line this long...

dont worry. it wont pass.

Rather misleading thread topic...How about changing it to "WILL Republic pass the LBFO???"

Have the details of the LBFO been published?

Company released the details before the meeting with the union and NMB was over. Full court PR press. This should tell you something right there.

Proposed Contract With IBT | Republic Airways Holdings

Its not too bad from what I've browsed through... the pay rates are a huge improvement.

Not sure I would call it an "Industry Leading Contract" when each year pay after year 1 is like .05 more than the next airline. They specifically target SkyWest's new deal as their primary competition throughout the documents.... kinda pathetic. Just be a good airline that people want to work for and prospective employees will make the judgement themselves.

Am I reading this right? First year FO pay will be $40 an hour??

One thing the about the SkyWest rates needs to be understood. SkyWest pilots get "historical credit" or better, not block or better. This equals about a 1.5% to 2.5% reduction in our hourly rate to fly the same route as any other regional.

Also the company is pushing hard for our times to start and finish when the wheels start rolling and stop, and I'm sure SAPA will go for it. About a 5% further reduction.

Some perspective of the republic contract.

😂 seriously? What's next...pay starts above 10,000'?

My "new" airline does this for block out. It's amazing how much time it robs from you. Easily 15-20 min a flight.

A buddy told me tis is how SIlver does it, tied into the tamdar GPS units... so they fire up the engines, move a couple hundred feet, then stop and finish the rest of thier stuff. WHether it actually happens I don't know, but this is a BS pay policy.

That looks right and they still have a hiring bonus. It also looks like new hires get free "uniforms" which include a roll-aboard luggageworks bag and an EFB bag?!

If Republic passes this contract would you work for them? Why or why not?

Im a newer hire here despite following the advice of the forum and going elsewhere. I have loved every minute and the new contract rolling out is just an added bonus if it passes. Every single pilot I have ran in to has been super friendly and ready to drop anything they're doing to help me if I have a question or need help. That goes for the same with everybody on the corporate side too. For as many pilots as we have, if I send an email to payroll, crew scheduling, etc. it is usually answered within a few hours. If you call they don't ever get ****ed off or agitated no matter how stupid the question might sound. The EFBs are nice and all the training facilities and instructors were superb.

And from every pilot Ive talked to since the LBFO rolled out, they've said they're going to vote yes if it goes to vote.

Man Mr. MANAGEMENT. you didn't have to lay it on so thick. You should have started smaller so we might have believed you were a pilot. They never answer the phone at HQ when I called. Nobody lifted a finger to help any new hires without a grumble and a sigh. Unless things have dramatically changed for the better there in the last year, I would have to say you are full of it.

You are clueless. Absolutely clueless. Go back to flight instructing because you have no business here.

You are trying too hard! You sound too much like management, so maybe practice and get a new login. I wouldnt waste your time though, because I hear this is getting voted down.

I saw some numbers today in a post about what the bottom feeder in Japan is offering pilots to go there. $102,890 for a 1st year captain and $110,090 for a second year captain (the post mistakenly said 5th year captain).

Looking at the rates in this contract it is $62100 for a first year captain.

Why would you guys consider accepting $40,790 less per year than the other airline is offering?

There are few pilots out there willing to work for a US carrier for what they want to pay. Don't accept less than the 102,890. and 110,090., tell them you have a better offer.

Every airline union needs to show these numbers to their company and tell them that they have to do better than that. It is not speculation, it is the bottom of what is being offered.

Very well written MrERJ, but lets examine what you said:
1. You said that you have loved every minute, what have you loved? Have you loved being paid half of what the market rate for a pilot is? Have you loved working for wages that have been degraded by 8 years of inflation?

2. Every pilot has been "super friendly". So what, that is not what is being negotiated. A contract that you are going to have to live with for the next 10 years is what is being negotiated, not tea party smiling.

3. Your questions have been answered. Ok, that's their job. What do you think happens at other airlines, they keep you in ignorance and watch you crash the plane. You could also have read the book and you don't need to work for half market rate to get your questions answered. Those questions being answered are not worth taking 30k a year in lower wages.

4. Your emails get answered. Again, this has nothing to do with the contract.

5. And here is the best one, "The EFBs are nice and all the training facilities and instructors were superb", wow, you got a $275 iPad and they taught you how to fly the plane. Again, this has nothing to do with evaluating a contract.

They are asking you to work for 30k to 50k per year less than the market rate for a pilot. A market that is going up fast.

They cannot find pilots to come and fly planes for what the current contracts say. The new offer gives the new guy more money and the rest get crap.

Nothing in your post had a thing to do with a contract. Pay me 30k a year and I will answer all your questions, I will go to Indy and get answers to all of your emails, I will buy you an iPad and train you "supurb"ly.

To be honest your post did not sound like a pilot's post at all and it had nothing to do with the evaluation of a contract. Go back in your cubby hole and show the real pilots a little respect.

If you are a pilot you can send me a copy of your license in a pm and I will let everyone know you are legitimate and make a public apology. Then we will just consider you naive and uninformed.

Comaircolonel, i guess people aren't allowed to have a different point of view, eh?
Shame on him for actually having a good attitude; with your username, i trust you are jaded.

I'm sorry, but don't we live in the usa?

So, you wouldn't go to Delta or United because their first year pay is substandard?

Why do I sound jaded? I looked at his post and noticed that there was nothing in it that had anything to do with whether or not someone should support the offer.

If your house has a 200k value and someone is offering you 100k should you really care that they are "super friendly"? One has nothing to do with the other. You should not care that they have brought the deed to your house, and even have a notary with them, you should not be selling your 200k house for 100k.

Do you really think MrERJ is a pilot? I certainly have my doubts.

Pilots need to know their value and they don't. It is no longer 19k a year. The market no longer says that a first year captain should make 60 an hour. The rate is at least 110 and once people come to understand this it will happen. The 110k that the Japanese airline is offering for a second year captain reflects what your value is more than what the regional has been paying you the last few years.

This offer pays a captain about 50k a year less than what the rate would be in a free market. Over 10 years that's $500,000. If you are offended because I feel you are worth $500,000 more than you think you are worth then I truly apologize!

Funny. When I emailed HR about my workers compensation pay I was told don't call or email us until we call you. After TWO MONTHS of no answers they finally responded when my attorney called them....

Sounds like a great place to work. But the LBFO will change all of the above, right?

Oh yeah. Then the Reverend will send out a homily about looking out for your fellow man as he cashes in his stock options when the price goes back up....

.......says the guy named GoJetforever ?! LoL

The only thing that should run through your minds when looking at this TA is it good enough? If yes - vote it If no - vote it.

The company's choice of Bankruptcy is theirs alone - don't let the fear of that dictate your actions. UAL pilots took concessions and they STILL filed bankruptcy......... Something to think about and also learn from.

well of course you disagree Loon, and you're tripping over yourself to support thinking like MrERJ because it perpetuates your cushy lifer seat at Republic that is largely subsidized by FOs making little pay. Who are you kidding. Yes voter to anything and everything I would bet, just so long as you arent forced to move on if the company goes tits up. Oh and the pilots will come if first year pay is $40/hr? Really, from where? Other regionals? I doubt as many FOs as you think would give up seniority and longevity to start over at a place like this. Why would they? To be subjected to this management team while they wait 7 years to upgrade because lifers like you wont move on?

Classic example of someone who took an extra helping of kool aid while in ground school when they kept telling you how great a company you work for.

It's very rare for a mgmt troll to show themselves so early but kudos to you.

And that is the dirty reality about Republic. Don't forget the CEO sending letters to pilots telling them to cut back on coffee and cable to save money..

And my personal favorite...the Grand Daddy of them all: The Republic CEO using his son as an example of "obedience" and how all pilots should be more like him and just obey. I'm not kidding.

Management tools like MrERJ, Loon, and Turbine Time can live in their fantasy world. The reality is that Republic has spiraled out of control thanks to none other than Bryan Bedford. NOTHING will pull it out of the dive and the future is bleak.

This contract offer is simply offering Republic pilots a little of what every other Regional pilot has had for years. And they are supposed to be happy about it? Oh, and here...let me raise your medical costs through the roof while we are at it and offset that first year pay completely. Anyone who falls for these cheap parlor tricks deserves to ride the Republic disaster all the way into the ground.

What was really funny was the day they cut off my health benefits after being out on workers compensation leave after 90 days. Only airline I have ever worked at that cuts you off and forces you to COBRA while on medical/workers compensation leave. Not even a greedy bastard like Hulas does that kind of stuff.

The real gut punch was this happened right after The Reverend sent out his Easter Homily on how we should all look out for each other and take care of your fellow man......

LOL......what a jerk....

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Don't worry bro, that sorry son of a b!tch will get what's coming to him. Mocking being a Christian.

I had to laugh.

When you all are ready to vote.... just think of this!


Bryan Bedford's house in Carmel, IN (Google Maps) - Virtual Globetrotting

2.6 Million with 10 bathrooms. But yeah cut your cable and don't drink so much coffee. These guys are way overvalued.

That is unfortunate (i mean that), but that IS in the cba.

How are pay raises, rigs, and min day parlor tricks? You work for envoy correct? Flow is the biggest parlor trick of all time. Flow can go away, money goes in your bank. If people are willing to throw themselves at the bottom of an 8+ year upgrade, and endless reserve for "flow", they will absolutely come to RAH for the thing that really matters. Cash in their pocket.

Your information about HK is incorrect or outdated. If you are out on medical or worker's comp they will immediately look for some reason to terminate you. One gal they looked at her facebook which had a pic of her wearing the captain's hat while sitting in the cockpit. They said she was flying the plane and fired her (a flight attendant). They didn't fire the captain who would have had to have let her fly if it was true. If they don't find a reason then after 6 weeks they just fire you anyway. The first indication that they are going to fire you is when your medical coverage is taken away and the prescriptions can't be filled.