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Originally Posted by CBreezy (Post 1962655)

There wasn't a vote because the company willfully circumvented the union and changed things they had already agreed upon. It's not the negotiating committee's fault that the company played a media stunt to try to make the union look bad knowing they'd shoot it down.

Why wont the nc show us their proposal? What are they hiding? I've heard that they each get 150 credit a month. Kinda makes you go hmmmm, doesn't it?

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Originally Posted by Loon (Post 1962650)

I believe that there should be a vote. Or we could just keep going on and on like this. I think if this isn't solved by years end, the nc should be replaced.

Your union did the right thing. If the company wants to talk to the pilots - TALK TO THE NEGOTIATING COMMITTEE. PERIOD.

Going around your collective bargaining RIGHTS to offer what the company thought was a "fair" deal, defeats the purpose of having a collecting bargaining voice.

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Originally Posted by SmitteyB (Post 1962665)

That is a trite, canned statement. The nc needs to be more transparent.

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Originally Posted by Loon (Post 1962663)

Why wont the nc show us their proposal? What are they hiding? I've heard that they each get 150 credit a month. Kinda makes you go hmmmm, doesn't it?

I heard they get free lap dances too. Any other rumors you want to start?

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Originally Posted by Loon (Post 1962669)

That is a trite, canned statement. The nc needs to be more transparent.

The Street: "...The [union] group also complained that Republic failed to provide data to support its wage proposals and modified contract language that had previously been agreed to..."

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Originally Posted by FirstClass (Post 1962425)

Republic is going to reorganize in bankruptcy court regardless of how the pilots vote. The great FO reshuffle is over. A new contract is great for the employees, but does nothing to attract new talent, there is no new pilots in the training pipeline, or at least not enough for Republic's needs.

Republic is going to shrink, and bankruptcy is the tool of choice to do just that.

I don't know what you guys are expecting, but trust me this is how its going to play out.

As much as I have bashed and trashed FirstClass, I think he's right about this one. The question then becomes that will this bankruptcy be caused by a similar fashion as was the Pinnacle endeavor? An endeavor to either acquire assets, or dispose of unneeded assets. In pinnacle's case, the bankruptcy was deliberate to dump -200's to fulfill the C2012 DAL contract with little to no cost to the airline. Does RAH own it's own aircraft? This is key.

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Originally Posted by Loon (Post 1962650)

It wont be considered an impasse because RAH management is "leaving it on the table" for a vote.
I believe that there should be a vote. Or we could just keep going on and on like this. I think if this isn't solved by years end, the nc should be replaced.

I really enjoy reading all about what you think you know.

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Originally Posted by TalkTurkey (Post 1962687)

Does RAH own it's own aircraft? This is key.

Yes, they do own their aircraft.

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Originally Posted by Loon (Post 1962663)

Why wont the nc show us their proposal? What are they hiding? I've heard that they each get 150 credit a month. Kinda makes you go hmmmm, doesn't it?

#mckeonfacts

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Originally Posted by Loon (Post 1962663)

Why wont the nc show us their proposal? What are they hiding? I've heard that they each get 150 credit a month. Kinda makes you go hmmmm, doesn't it?

This is very surprising to read considering you personally know 2 of the members, or at least claim to. I also know one and they have sacrificed greatly to do that job. If they are being paid 150 hours, it's because they are working that much. As for making their proposal public, why should they? As of now the company won't bother looking at it.

Now I've got a question for you since you've brought the nc members character into question. Why do you want this to pass so bad if you're leaving soon? Would it be so you can collect a signing bonus and bail? Leaving the rest of us to deal with the horrific language while you walk away with your 11k laughing? You've been very quick to call out other pilots for picking up ot, handing paperwork out the window, etc. Now here you are supporting the company's effort to circumvent the process. They agreed to 19 articles, then changed almost all of them. Who's character should be in question between the company and our NC?

Your are beyond selfish to throw the nc members under the bus. Guys you apparently know and have worked with. All because you want a check as you walk out the door.