Loon

Shhhhh, you mustn't speak against RAH haters(both external and internal).
FWIW, I agree with you.

GoHomeLeg

My point was I don't think United will be bailing RAH out of the mess they created over some airplanes United doesn't really want. RAH made their bed.

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GoHomeLeg

There are plenty of operators out there that have cheaper (read: younger) pilot groups, that operate the same aircraft, that don't have the "staffing challenges" Republic has. The only leverage RAH currently has is they own their airplanes.

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WesternSkies

Bombardier will dang near pay you to order the CS series at this point. They are in hot water for that program back home.

FlameNSky

I don't think anyone things that another regional is going to underbid Republic's CPA. In the current environment, the biggest threat is the mainlines just bringing the flying home. Good for pilots in general but not for those pilots working for regionals that lose the flying.

I do think that as an industry, the will have to increase compensation. Company's like Delta are choosing to do this through bonuses and other non hourly pay compensation items because I am sure they will want to return to the old pitiful pay that they have enjoyed for the last 30 years. I think that if Doug Parker feels that an increase in pilot pay is necessary, he will (as so far has) do this among his wholly owned carriers because he can easily increase and decrease these incentives as necessary. Giving out increased money to his contracted carriers will not allow him the flexibility to stop paying out those increased costs when he feels they are no longer necessary.

sqwkvfr

Bombardier is pretty desperate to move the C-Series right now...I'm sure they wouldn't even sneeze if converting those -300 orders to -100s would mean putting their aircraft into service with a major American airline.

GoHomeLeg

This is a fair point and could help United. But how will it help Republic? If United can get the planes cheaply from the manufacturer then there is no reason to renegotiate a higher paying CPA with Republic as well. United can just go straight to the source.

My point is that, contrary to previous posts, United wanting the C series does not help (or hurt) Republic in any way. United has no incentive to pay Republic more money for their current CPAs.

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Waitingformins

Yea, it's all posturing. RAH's contract is inline with SKW except for year 1 Fo's, and SKW makes millions. There is no real problem expect that RAH wants to shed the 145's cheaper than Delta will allow. This makes it fairly obvious that mainline would rather add options to an existing contract than submit a new RFP. Which means RAH is not a risk of loseing their contracts or being allowed to fold forcing the flying to be rebid.

Mainline reclaiming flying will happen regardless of any regionals vote.
Pilots are not in control of their destiny as much as mgmt would like them to believe.

FirstClass

Bombardier is being bailed out by the Canadian government, they will be ok. Further, the lear 85 is cancelled. Kind of a shame, the c series looks like a nice airplane but they can only be flown by the majors and that is for the best. Mainlines haven't expressed an interest in adding a new manufacturer.

Historically, Delta has said no to renegotiating FFD contracts, its been tried in the past. Maybe this time things will be different but I doubt it. I also suspect American will have no desire to renegotiate either and want to move the flying to their wholly owneds. United possibly.

I suspect RAH will at some point drop one of the mainline carriers.

sqwkvfr

Yeah, you're right...I thought that maybe you were implying that RJET wouldn't be able to unload them.