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Originally Posted by JoePatroni
(Post 2746269)
I think moving the spoiler handle slightly is an approved way of disabling the autobrakes, stowing them completely is supposed to be done after clearing....some guys combine the two.
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Originally Posted by Short Bus Drive
(Post 2746279)
It is, that's what I do. Just a little click. Some are fully stowing them right after stowing the reversers at 80kts or so.
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Originally Posted by JoePatroni
(Post 2746269)
I think moving the spoiler handle slightly is an approved way of disabling the autobrakes, stowing them completely is supposed to be done after clearing....some guys combine the two.
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The runway conditions were ???????
4R, the landing runway, was 5, 5, 5 on ATIS continually. We had decided to go for 4R, with the headwind, vs 10L which was 3, 2, 2 and a very gusty crosswind. Our controller told us that 4R had gone down to 3, 2, 2, I believe...we ran the numbers and said it wasn't practical to try, and so we were going to hold for a longer runway. Immediately after, he said there was a -145 that reported Good braking action on 4R, so we decided to stay with 4R as originally planned....then UAL went off the runway, and we were sent to holding. We were told 10C was going to be it, and it was 5, 5, 5. The landing was uneventful. Taxiing off the high speed (going very slowly), the whole plane slid about 30 feet straight ahead. Taxi conditions were pretty awful. |
Originally Posted by atpcliff
(Post 2746439)
I never heard of this. Everyone I have seen just touches the brake pedals to turn the autobrakes off...maybe not available in all Boeing aircraft...
To disengage 757/767 autobrakes: you can manually turn off autobrake switch, manually apply brakes, push at least one throttle up, or retract speedbrake handle until the autobrakes turn off. That's what I remember at least. It would seem it is common across Boeing fleets. |
Originally Posted by atpcliff
(Post 2746439)
I never heard of this. Everyone I have seen just touches the brake pedals to turn the autobrakes off...maybe not available in all Boeing aircraft...
Nudging the spoiler handle is much smoother than using the brake pedals most times. |
Originally Posted by Gnaw
(Post 2746445)
To disengage 757/767 autobrakes: you can manually turn off autobrake switch, manually apply brakes, push at least one throttle up, or retract speedbrake handle until the autobrakes turn off. That's what I remember at least. It would seem it is common across Boeing fleets.
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Under slippery conditions, no reason to stow at 80 kts. At least that’s how I like to operate.
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Originally Posted by IAHB756
(Post 2746210)
And there lies the problem. The 737 doesn’t have a limit on reverse use. Our problems have mostly stemmed from pilots previously having an 80 knot limitation on the Airbus thinking they still do on the 737 and slamming the reversers down at 80 knots while engines are still spooled thus basically rear ending themselves on the short, contaminated runway. Folks, you can leave it in reverse as you exit the runway for all Boeing cares. Once stowed, it takes almost 10 seconds to get back into full reverse. At idle reverse, less than 3 seconds. When all you have left (unexpected nil braking at end of runway) is luck and thrust, I want the reversers at the ready.
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Originally Posted by Gnaw
(Post 2746445)
It would seem it is common across Boeing fleets.
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