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ShyGuy 06-28-2019 05:18 PM


Originally Posted by JohnBurke (Post 2844804)
Defunded during the current administration. The cheetoh in chief thought it was a good idea shut down the the government for the longest period in recorded history.

But that's largely irrelevant, given that certification was met.

Not gonna lie, I thought you’d be red pro-Trump. And that govt shutdown wasn’t just orange man’s fault. At one point the Dems held American citizens as hostage for DACA (illegal people protection / benefits).

Bluesideup1 06-28-2019 05:38 PM


Originally Posted by JohnBurke (Post 2844804)
Defunded during the current administration. The cheetoh in chief thought it was a good idea shut down the the government for the longest period in recorded history.

But that's largely irrelevant, given that certification was met.

Gotta love the TDS going on with you libs. Make sure not to get a single fact right. The FAA wasn't defunded, The vast majority of the max was certified long before Trump ever came into office. With designs startiing in 2014, production starting in early 2015 and the first plane being completed in Dec 2015, the first flight in Jan 2016 and the first delivery in May of 2016.

The shut down didn't happen until almost a year after the first flight and 7 months after first delivery it would be hard even for the most math illiterate liberal to try and connect the two but some how you still tried.

JohnBurke 06-28-2019 06:14 PM


Originally Posted by Excargodog (Post 2844860)
Not sure you can legitimately hold the current admin culpable.

I didn't. In fact, I said nothing of the kind. The troll who whined about defunding missed the boat by a mile, and it was to that end I commented.

The pilots are culpable. They're the ones who crashed the damn airplane.


Originally Posted by Bluesideup1 (Post 2844886)
Gotta love the TDS going on with you libs. Make sure not to get a single fact right.

TDS? Speak english, not millennial teen-speak.

Libs? Anyone who doesn't fall prostrate and worship at the cheetoh alter is a "lib," apparently. Go ahead, use "libtard." Get your inner redneck on and get that ignorance out of your system.

I own more guns than you'll ever handle in a lifetime, and probably reload more ammunition than you'll ever see, but am a lib for failure to venerate the enthroned gasbag. Cute.

My facts are right. Boeing met the certification requirements. The longest shutdown occurred under the current administration. Both facts, both correct.

Boeing's issues with the 737 Max are largely political and owing to trade policies by the current administration. The international groundings were illegal and in violation of the Chicago convention, lacking any specific foundation.

Additional issues which may have cropped up during the present review, unrelated and largely badly reported, are as with any type design. I have maintained aircraft that are 70+ years old and still find issues after decades of time in service; problems will continue to crop up and be addressed by service bulletins, airworthiness directives, etc. No surprise there at all.

The specific case of the Ethiopian mishap, already heavily discussed and investigated, is very clear one of pilots failing to fly the airplane. There is nowhere in the aircraft flight manual or quick reference handbook which directs the crew to accelerate well past Vmo/Mmo until all control is lost, yet keeping airspeed in check is something taught to every student pilot on the first lesson and reinforced on every one after that. Go figure.

Slaphappy 06-28-2019 07:30 PM


Originally Posted by JohnBurke (Post 2844911)
I didn't. In fact, I said nothing of the kind. The troll who whined about defunding missed the boat by a mile, and it was to that end I commented.

The pilots are culpable. They're the ones who crashed the damn airplane.



TDS? Speak english, not millennial teen-speak.

Libs? Anyone who doesn't fall prostrate and worship at the cheetoh alter is a "lib," apparently. Go ahead, use "libtard." Get your inner redneck on and get that ignorance out of your system.

I own more guns than you'll ever handle in a lifetime, and probably reload more ammunition than you'll ever see, but am a lib for failure to venerate the enthroned gasbag. Cute.

My facts are right. Boeing met the certification requirements. The longest shutdown occurred under the current administration. Both facts, both correct.

Boeing's issues with the 737 Max are largely political and owing to trade policies by the current administration. The international groundings were illegal and in violation of the Chicago convention, lacking any specific foundation.

Additional issues which may have cropped up during the present review, unrelated and largely badly reported, are as with any type design. I have maintained aircraft that are 70+ years old and still find issues after decades of time in service; problems will continue to crop up and be addressed by service bulletins, airworthiness directives, etc. No surprise there at all.

The specific case of the Ethiopian mishap, already heavily discussed and investigated, is very clear one of pilots failing to fly the airplane. There is nowhere in the aircraft flight manual or quick reference handbook which directs the crew to accelerate well past Vmo/Mmo until all control is lost, yet keeping airspeed in check is something taught to every student pilot on the first lesson and reinforced on every one after that. Go figure.

President Trump seems to live rent free in your head. Better get that under control otherwise it's gonna be a long 5 and half years for you.

trip 06-28-2019 09:02 PM


Originally Posted by JohnBurke (Post 2844804)
Defunded during the current administration. The cheetoh in chief thought it was a good idea shut down the the government for the longest period in recorded history.

But that's largely irrelevant, given that certification was met.

What an ignorant comment.

JohnBurke 06-29-2019 08:18 AM


Originally Posted by trip (Post 2844968)
What an ignorant comment.

Which part, given that it's fact?

trip 06-29-2019 08:48 AM


JohnBurke is on your ignore list.
...........

JohnBurke 06-29-2019 08:50 AM

Outstanding.

Slaphappy 06-29-2019 12:34 PM


Originally Posted by JohnBurke (Post 2845121)
Which part, given that it's fact?

All of it, your entire view is based on ignorance.
especially when you call people "redneck" or refer to the President as "Cheetoh in chief".

JohnBurke 06-29-2019 01:13 PM


Originally Posted by Slaphappy (Post 2845248)
All of it, your entire view is based on ignorance.
especially when you call people "redneck" or refer to the President as "Cheetoh in chief".

Hardly. The statement was in response to having been called a "lib."

READ. And do try to focus. My view is based on facts. What have you to contribute?


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