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Old 03-10-2020, 03:26 PM
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For me....it come a down to:
- I want to get home to my family more than I want to get you to yours right now!
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Old 03-10-2020, 03:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Hawkerdriver1
it depends on the company. My last company supported me 100%. No questions asked. It was nice.
And that’s what it should be.
However the ‘Rich and Famous’ can be notoriously difficult and demanding and you need to be able to say No even though you may jeopardize the business of your employer.
A lot of these people cram their schedules so full there’s no other option but travel by private jet/helicopter.
A delay let alone a cancellation will wreak havoc.
The way I understand it Kobe’s daughter was to play in a basketball game coached by her dad in a couple of hours.
Totally no pressure on Kobe’s favorite pilot.
Not trying to be facetious.
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Old 03-10-2020, 06:25 PM
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Just sad. His daughter played the previous day too. How easy it would have been to stay over someplace nice nearby for Sunday’s game.
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Old 08-02-2020, 08:01 PM
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It’s a VERY widely disparate world. There are bottom-feeders and there are high achievers. In Part 135 especially, profit motives are often a driver towards the bottom, and price competition in busy markets can yield some skinny operations that cut a lot of corners, which includes pilot compensation. Sometimes you get what you pay for. In lean times, they draw qualified candidates who make up for their weak practices. In flush times, when pilot hiring is strong, the experience levels drop precipitously and these operators get markedly less safe.
The best 135 and 91 operators are run to a high standard, and no 121 pilot would feel out of place. The difference is often the variation of airports, from very small to hub, that most airlines don’t see. Some of the airports are more demanding than the usual, and that does up the risks.
In general, the better 91 and 135 operators are very safe, but it’s not always easy to judge from the surface which one is really reliable. In the Kobe case, one of the issues pilots frequently bring up is the lack of an IFR pilot. But... it’s SoCal. IFR currency isn’t just rare; it’s almost nonexistent. The metric of IFR = safe is just hard to apply, because of the operational constraints inherent to the environment.
What isn’t debatable is whether being close to high-profile, high net worth passengers can skew the equation. The best operators do their best to defuse that pressure, but not all are successful. I’ve flown for great operators and passengers who never put that pressure on, but there are others who will turn the screws to get what they want.
The band between great and awful is much wider in the 91/135 world, but there are certainly operators that are every bit as safe as the airlines. It’s the lower hours and the wide variation that skew the trends.
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