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havick206 10-24-2020 06:53 PM
Originally Posted by crj700 (Post 3149658)
I certainly hope this wasn't the case in Freeport.
It “shouldn’t” be, as there’s no checklist for that procedure except as a maintenance action on the ground.

aewhistleblower 10-24-2020 07:15 PM
That article on my envoy air about Bahamas flying being back did not age well

Paid2fly 10-24-2020 07:26 PM
Originally Posted by 1Taco (Post 3149643)
Yes. They were transferring hyd fluid from sys 1 to 2 in flight and accidentally left the parking brake set.


Same system on the Brazildo, has also caused same issue(landing with parking brake set).

JungleJetBoss 10-24-2020 08:01 PM
Originally Posted by crj700 (Post 3149658)
I certainly hope this wasn't the case in Freeport.
That’s a fairly lengthy and in depth procedure. That flight was only 22 minutes from off to on.
I’m thinking more along the lines of a possible brake controller failure.

HalyardJammer 10-24-2020 09:43 PM
Originally Posted by JungleJetBoss (Post 3149684)
That’s a fairly lengthy and in depth procedure. That flight was only 22 minutes from off to on.
I’m thinking more along the lines of a possible brake controller failure.
No it isn't as far as I remember.

Assuming you want to move fluid from system 2 back to 1 its:

While holding toe breaks, put parking brake on.
Release toe breaks, then release the parking brake.
Repeat.

havick206 10-24-2020 09:46 PM
Originally Posted by HalyardJammer (Post 3149701)
No it isn't as far as I remember.

Assuming you want to move fluid from system 2 back to 1 its:

While holding toe breaks, put parking brake on.
Release toe breaks, then release the parking brake.
Repeat.
Which also doesn’t appear in any checklists or MEL’s available to pilots from memory, for exactly the reason the company didn’t want anyone landing with the park brake on.

HalyardJammer 10-24-2020 10:20 PM
Originally Posted by havick206 (Post 3149702)
Which also doesn’t appear in any checklists or MEL’s available to pilots from memory, for exactly the reason the company didn’t want anyone landing with the park brake on.
Sure, that's systems knowledge rather than procedure.

CLE to IAH 10-25-2020 02:44 AM
Originally Posted by HalyardJammer (Post 3149701)
No it isn't as far as I remember.

Assuming you want to move fluid from system 2 back to 1 its:

While holding toe breaks, put parking brake on.
Release toe breaks, then release the parking brake.
Repeat.
I’ve never broken a toe. I’ve broken fingers and even vertebrae but never toes.

HalyardJammer 10-25-2020 03:05 AM
Originally Posted by CLE to IAH (Post 3149713)
I’ve never broken a toe. I’ve broken fingers and even vertebrae but never toes.
Too late to edit! Boo.

BigZ 10-25-2020 06:19 AM
Originally Posted by HalyardJammer (Post 3149701)
No it isn't as far as I remember.

Assuming you want to move fluid from system 2 back to 1 its:

While holding toe breaks, put parking brake on.
Release toe breaks, then release the parking brake.
Repeat.
“Move” fluid from one system to another? Gross.

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