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Old 04-26-2021, 05:53 AM
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Originally Posted by JohnBurke View Post
Used to be that we just turned off the damn transponder.
It would be possible (and quite easy) to implement modern digital systems such that it would send a "signoff" signal when manually switched off. Curious if that's part of the ADS-B standard... it would definitely rat you out. There could be legit reasons to implement that, spectrum and processor management to avoid wasting system resources "looking" for something that's not there. ADS-B is not the same as cell phones, but cell phones do send such a signal.
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Just a WAG, but going by her written works, I'd imagine that over the years she poked a great many eyes over there at the Cincinnati FSDO. Before and after she retired! No doubt they've been waiting a long time to throw the book at her.

IMHO, this complete revocation was overboard, but she bears some responsibility for her situation.
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Old 04-26-2021, 06:21 PM
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"A government agency pushing its authority far beyond the original intended purpose? Nah, that never happens."

This. Lots of examples of government doing whatever they want with no recourse for their actions.
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To get right to it though.......what does someone who's almost 80 yrs old have to lose by flying anyway under a revoked ticket? Another revocation? LOL
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Old 04-26-2021, 08:16 PM
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To get right to it though.......what does someone who's almost 80 yrs old have to lose by flying anyway under a revoked ticket? Another revocation? LOL
There must be a civil penalty for that, otherwise the FAA would have no recourse.

If you were to do it for commercial purposes, definitely federal prison and/or big fines, but I don't think that law applies to private pilot type activities.
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Old 04-27-2021, 03:05 PM
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JDA Journal's take on the matter:

This Aviation Star deserved ?COMPLIANCE? FAA action | JDA Journal
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Old 04-27-2021, 03:43 PM
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what would the FAA version of Martha have done, had this come across her desk?
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what would the FAA version of Martha have done, had this come across her desk?

My exact thought.
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Pretty crap article but the difference between Harrison Ford and Martha Lunken is he made a MISTAKE, she did it KNOWING it was illegal. When you get to breaking a reg on purpose, Compliance Action is off the table.
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Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but any half decent aviation attorney should have been able to mitigate her revocation, into perhaps a 120-180 day suspension.

Not only because that seems to have been a typical penalty for intentionally violating 91.119, but ALSO because of the stale complaint rule, since it took over a YEAR for the revocation order to come her way.

Not at all saying a halfway decent attorney could have gotten her off, but absolutely SHOULD have been successful in getting the FAA to settle for a fairly lengthy certificate action suspension, instead of emergency revocation.

That should be only used for the worst of the WORST offenses, like flying under the influence of drugs or alcohol, or drug trafficking.
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