Flame suit on and all that jazz, but yet again I'm going to go with: simpleton pilot error loss of control. I said as much in the Atlas crash and I was Pk=1 on that one. So I don't know why it's considered such blasphemy to posit the hypothesis that's historically Occam's Razor when it comes to this aviation category.

Oh and I.B.T.L. I'm sure this Chinese themed thread will go off the rails faster than a cat launch. C Ya!

That’s what happens when anyone with access to the internet can join. This place was actually worth something when it restricted who could be here.

This situation is very different in many aspects to the Atlas crash. You just don't go from straight and level with the AP on to a 30k FPM dive.

https://twitter.com/flightradar24/status/1505856329994457092?s=20&t=ix2b2TmYOVM7X9Lpa54dUg

Chinese Plane Crash
 

A plane crashed in China today. It was a plane that was built by the Boeing company in the late 1990s. It was piloted by 2 Chinese pepole. I hope they find out what happened without any lying. China president sent science and rescue team to find out what happened. China News will tell the world what happened, no need to come up with own silly theories.

We never actually did that to any significant degree.

I immediately thought of the rudder issues the 737s had back in the early 90s.
For some reason, Alaska 261 crossed my mind as well.

Tragic no matter the reason, but I sure hope it was not intentional.

Before you were a mod and HSLD and FreightDawg ran it, they did.

There’s some speed fluctuations in the last 10 minutes. Similar to mountain wave. My wild ass unsupported by any facts conjecture is a failed upset recovery event.

Thunderstorm weather condition in vicinity of crash site.

What are the chances any of the voice/plane recorders are recovered? It looks like there is nothing left to recover.