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rickair7777 03-15-2024 08:08 AM


Originally Posted by trip (Post 3781904)
How is it inadvertantly activated when it's a covered switch?

Sounds like if the cover is broken or loose, it can jam the switch in the operate position.

TiredSoul 03-15-2024 08:45 AM


Originally Posted by rickair7777 (Post 3781931)
Sounds like if the cover is broken or loose, it can jam the switch in the operate position.

That may technically be possible however implausible.

fenite 03-15-2024 03:58 PM


Originally Posted by TiredSoul (Post 3781953)
That may technically be possible however implausible.

It's what happened. Boeing issued a memo today. All operators need to inspect the covers and switches.

https://youtube.com/shorts/7DLNKU2wEjM

trip 03-15-2024 05:06 PM


Originally Posted by fenite (Post 3782082)
It's what happened. Boeing issued a memo today. All operators need to inspect the covers and switches.

https://youtube.com/shorts/7DLNKU2wEjM

Sounds like that switch may be better off left uncovered.

dera 03-15-2024 05:15 PM


Originally Posted by rickair7777 (Post 3781931)
Sounds like if the cover is broken or loose, it can jam the switch in the operate position.

Even that will not force the pilot to push on the yoke as hard as you have to.
Unless he is an absolute moron.

trip 03-15-2024 07:37 PM


Originally Posted by dera (Post 3782103)
Even that will not force the pilot to push on the yoke as hard as you have to.
Unless he is an absolute moron.

I think the tray must have been between himself and the yoke, or he was sitting half turned and was caught in between. Very strange chain of events.

I heard of a similiar incidence once at a different airline when a FA sat down (sideways) in the F/O seat as he was taking a lav break. When she went to get up she placed her hand down on the flap lever deploying the flaps at cruise.

dera 03-15-2024 07:44 PM


Originally Posted by trip (Post 3782139)
I think the tray must have been between himself and the yoke, or he was sitting half turned and was caught in between. Very strange chain of events.

I heard of a similiar incidence once at a different airline when a FA sat down (sideways) in the F/O seat as he was taking a lav break. When she went to get up she placed her hand down on the flap lever deploying the flaps at cruise.

The seat doesn't move that fast.

Or perhaps this is all an excuse, and in reality it's a case of "hey you wanna fly this plane, take a seat!"

sailingfun 03-16-2024 04:43 AM


Originally Posted by Sliceback (Post 3780885)
It will be interesting to see how the investigation finds out what agrees, or disagrees, with what the pilot told the passenger.

Its quite likely the pilot told the passenger nothing or something the passenger wildly misquoted or misunderstood.

sailingfun 03-16-2024 04:48 AM


Originally Posted by fenite (Post 3782082)
It's what happened. Boeing issued a memo today. All operators need to inspect the covers and switches.

https://youtube.com/shorts/7DLNKU2wEjM

Its not what happened. Boeing is simply covering every possible eventuality. No pun intended!

Sliceback 03-16-2024 09:58 AM

Saw an article that Boeing had a Sevice Bulletion back in 2017 for operators to inspect the cover over the seat travel swtich located behind the pilot seats headrest. .

Trays, crossed legs, partially in or out of the seat, has also been involved with inadvertant yoke pushing.


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