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SonicFlyer 01-20-2025 07:13 AM

ATC sends DL over top of rocket launch
 
https://viewfromthewing.com/air-traffic-control-sends-delta-plane-into-spacex-rockets-launch-area-falcon-9-scrubbed-with-11-seconds-to-spare/


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4RMhf0YELrA

rickair7777 01-20-2025 08:43 AM

Would be interesting to know if there's any blowback on the pilots.

In addition to tedious plotting of dots based on NOTAMs, EFB apps show such restricted areas.

Although such areas can go hot and cold on very short notice, depending on vagaries of launch schedules (or VIP schedules, such as Bill's haircut)... in which case pilots do rely on ATC to know the exact status.

JohnBurke 01-20-2025 02:22 PM

Under IFR, pilots are routed through TFR's all the time, so the crew given direction by ATC is not necessarily out of line.

Some of those closest calls I've had in flight occurred when operating in very low visibility in smoke inside a TFR, when commercial traffic was routed through my fire, by ATC. The closest involved a Skywest Brasillia; I was in a C-130, and was close enough that I observed the captain in the Brasillia wearing Rayban Outdoorsman II sunglasses with green lenses. There are close near mid-airs, and then there are CLOSE ones. This was CLOSE. It wasn't a new TFR, or a small one. There was no missing the fire; a very large, complex fire with multiple divisions and heavy smoke on multiple flanks. The Brasillia was operating under IFR, and in accordance with an ATC clearance, and was legal. ATC can do that, and crews vectored or directed by ATC, under IFR, are legal.

rickair7777 01-20-2025 07:56 PM

What year was that?

John Carr 01-20-2025 09:33 PM

2 Imporatant questions;

1) Was DAL reporting light chop?
2) We're they performing their collateral duty as guard police?

JohnBurke 01-20-2025 11:13 PM


Originally Posted by rickair7777 (Post 3873253)
What year was that?

Over the course of two and a half decades, quite a few of them.


Originally Posted by John Carr (Post 3873265)
2 Imporatant questions;

1) Was DAL reporting light chop?
2) We're they performing their collateral duty as guard police?

More importantly, were they both wearing their hat?

sailingfun 01-21-2025 05:11 AM

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Originally Posted by John Carr (Post 3873265)
2 Imporatant questions;

1) Was DAL reporting light chop?
2) We're they performing their collateral duty as guard police?

They were doing neither but the CA was on a greenslip pulling in 13 bucks a minute!

RippinClapBombs 01-21-2025 06:50 AM


Originally Posted by sailingfun (Post 3873285)
They were doing neither but the CA was on a greenslip pulling in 13 bucks a minute!

Nah they were attempting to crack a joke in disguise of really trying to randomly flex— case in point above haha.

rickair7777 01-21-2025 07:28 AM


Originally Posted by RippinClapBombs (Post 3873312)
Nah they were attempting to crack a joke in disguise of really trying to randomly flex— case in point above haha.

I think sailing is retired. So probably just a joke.

rickair7777 01-21-2025 07:29 AM


Originally Posted by JohnBurke (Post 3873275)
Over the course of two and a half decades, quite a few of them.

The Brasillia close encounter?


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