ATC sends DL over top of rocket launch
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Would be interesting to know if there's any blowback on the pilots.
In addition to tedious plotting of dots based on NOTAMs, EFB apps show such restricted areas.
Although such areas can go hot and cold on very short notice, depending on vagaries of launch schedules (or VIP schedules, such as Bill's haircut)... in which case pilots do rely on ATC to know the exact status.
In addition to tedious plotting of dots based on NOTAMs, EFB apps show such restricted areas.
Although such areas can go hot and cold on very short notice, depending on vagaries of launch schedules (or VIP schedules, such as Bill's haircut)... in which case pilots do rely on ATC to know the exact status.
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Under IFR, pilots are routed through TFR's all the time, so the crew given direction by ATC is not necessarily out of line.
Some of those closest calls I've had in flight occurred when operating in very low visibility in smoke inside a TFR, when commercial traffic was routed through my fire, by ATC. The closest involved a Skywest Brasillia; I was in a C-130, and was close enough that I observed the captain in the Brasillia wearing Rayban Outdoorsman II sunglasses with green lenses. There are close near mid-airs, and then there are CLOSE ones. This was CLOSE. It wasn't a new TFR, or a small one. There was no missing the fire; a very large, complex fire with multiple divisions and heavy smoke on multiple flanks. The Brasillia was operating under IFR, and in accordance with an ATC clearance, and was legal. ATC can do that, and crews vectored or directed by ATC, under IFR, are legal.
Some of those closest calls I've had in flight occurred when operating in very low visibility in smoke inside a TFR, when commercial traffic was routed through my fire, by ATC. The closest involved a Skywest Brasillia; I was in a C-130, and was close enough that I observed the captain in the Brasillia wearing Rayban Outdoorsman II sunglasses with green lenses. There are close near mid-airs, and then there are CLOSE ones. This was CLOSE. It wasn't a new TFR, or a small one. There was no missing the fire; a very large, complex fire with multiple divisions and heavy smoke on multiple flanks. The Brasillia was operating under IFR, and in accordance with an ATC clearance, and was legal. ATC can do that, and crews vectored or directed by ATC, under IFR, are legal.
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Over the course of two and a half decades, quite a few of them.
More importantly, were they both wearing their hat?
More importantly, were they both wearing their hat?
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