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Excargodog 02-13-2025 09:27 AM

USS Truman collision
 
https://thehill.com/policy/defense/5...rier-collides/

https://www.c6f.navy.mil/Press-Room/...lision-at-sea/

USS Harry S. Truman Involved in Collision at Sea

By U.S. Sixth Fleet Public Affairs

MEDITERRANEAN SEA – The Nimitz-class aircraft carrier USS Harry S. Truman (CVN 75) was involved in a collision with the merchant vessel Besiktas-M at approximately 11:46 p.m. local time, Feb. 12, while operating in the vicinity of Port Said, Egypt, in the Mediterranean Sea.

The collision did not endanger the Harry S. Truman (CVN 75) as there are no reports of flooding or injuries. The propulsion plants are unaffected and in a safe and stable condition. The incident is under investigation. More information will be released as it becomes available.

rickair7777 02-13-2025 05:19 PM

Rumor is the warships switched off AIS (commercial shipping equivalent of transponder). That implies they had elevated their tactical condition, which implies they might have been conducting flight ops, which would restrict their ability to manuever.

2StgTurbine 02-13-2025 06:23 PM


Originally Posted by rickair7777 (Post 3882820)
Rumor is the warships switched off AIS (commercial shipping equivalent of transponder). That implies they had elevated their tactical condition, which implies they might have been conducting flight ops, which would restrict their ability to manuever.

That is unlikely. They were surrounded by 30+ other ships all waiting to go through the canal. Ships turn off their AIS all the time. They are supposed to turn it on in "congested" areas, but I wouldn't be surprised if Naval vessels leave it off while they transit the canal. That's a critical moment and you don't really want to give too much notice that you are placing an expensive target in a confined area. That would be pretty wild to conduct flight operations when they were literally surrounded by 10 tankers within 5 nm.

tallpilot 02-13-2025 06:31 PM


Originally Posted by 2StgTurbine (Post 3882839)
That is unlikely. They were surrounded by 30+ other ships all waiting to go through the canal. Ships turn off their AIS all the time. They are supposed to turn it on in "congested" areas, but I wouldn't be surprised if Naval vessels leave it off while they transit the canal. That's a critical moment and you don't really want to give too much notice that you are placing an expensive target in a confined area. That would be pretty wild to conduct flight operations when they were literally surrounded by 10 tankers within 5 nm.

I know the canal is a lot faster but it does seem to be rather compromising from a tactical standpoint.

rickair7777 02-13-2025 06:40 PM


Originally Posted by 2StgTurbine (Post 3882839)
That is unlikely. They were surrounded by 30+ other ships all waiting to go through the canal. Ships turn off their AIS all the time. They are supposed to turn it on in "congested" areas, but I wouldn't be surprised if Naval vessels leave it off while they transit the canal. That's a critical moment and you don't really want to give too much notice that you are placing an expensive target in a confined area. That would be pretty wild to conduct flight operations when they were literally surrounded by 10 tankers within 5 nm.

Yes there's no assurance they'll run AIS at any particular time. I wouldn't expect flight ops there either unless there was some sort of exteme circumstance.

2StgTurbine 02-13-2025 06:51 PM

But would they really be running flight ops in such a congested area? Don't carriers go 25 knots during flight ops? That's pretty fast when you are surrounded by anchored boats.

rickair7777 02-13-2025 07:12 PM


Originally Posted by 2StgTurbine (Post 3882852)
But would they really be running flight ops in such a congested area? Don't carriers go 25 knots during flight ops? That's pretty fast when you are surrounded by anchored boats.

Yes they go fast. I was thinking maybe helo ops, don't need the wind over the deck but can't be jerking the helm around much either.

Excargodog 02-14-2025 08:48 AM

Update with pictures…
 
https://news.usni.org/2025/02/14/car...rt-for-repairs

sailingfun 02-16-2025 06:02 AM


Originally Posted by rickair7777 (Post 3882820)
Rumor is the warships switched off AIS (commercial shipping equivalent of transponder). That implies they had elevated their tactical condition, which implies they might have been conducting flight ops, which would restrict their ability to manuever.

Its always turned off prior to transiting the Suez and I suspect left off anytime in the Red Sea. No sense making it super easy to get initial coordinates for a drone or missle attack.

sailingfun 02-16-2025 06:04 AM


Originally Posted by 2StgTurbine (Post 3882852)
But would they really be running flight ops in such a congested area? Don't carriers go 25 knots during flight ops? That's pretty fast when you are surrounded by anchored boats.

They go at the required speed to generate the required wind over the deck. Could be as slow as possible while maintaining steerage way up to flat out depending on the true winds and operations being conducted.


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