CRJ accident at Toronto
03-21-2025 | 08:34 AM
#771
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03-21-2025 | 08:41 AM
#772
Respek
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I never said it can't be pilot error. I'm not willing to point a finger and blame when I don't have the facts to do so. If the investigation concludes it's pilot error, then so be it. No getting around that. I'm just not gonna do that until it's all said and done. If they did screw up, I gave them the benefit of the doubt.
As someone that's flown in a "guilty until proven innocent" environment, trust me when I say you do not want that culture in the airlines
As someone that's flown in a "guilty until proven innocent" environment, trust me when I say you do not want that culture in the airlines
03-21-2025 | 08:42 AM
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Prime Minister/Moderator
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From: Engines Turn or People Swim
03-21-2025 | 09:48 AM
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From: Window seat
FB - "I've got 40 hrs." Oh, that's even better. A grand total of *1* trip post IOE between the two of them. Me - "I'm not sure how this is going to work out. I normally rely on you guys to keep me straight." ;-)
At some point everyone's an FNG.
We had a blast laughing to and from Rio. Turns out the FB and a bunch of time on the 777. I told the FO (he and FB were buddies) - "ask him. He'll tell you, it's about 95% the same as the 777. So if you get confused just revert back to the 777 procedures and you'll figure it out." FO - "I don't have any 777 time." I ask FB - "it's true, isn't it?" FB turns to the FO - "he's right. It's very similar to the 777." FO - "I don't have any 777 time." Me - "well pretend you do. What do you think you'd do then? Just do that." FB's laughing - "listen to him, he's right!" FO's got this 'WTF, you've got to be kidding me' look on this face.' We're taxiing out. FB's laughing - "I love you man!" Fun times.
03-21-2025 | 10:01 AM
#775
Roll’n Thunder
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From: Pilot
03-21-2025 | 10:06 AM
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03-21-2025 | 10:35 AM
#777
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From: Blue Juice Taste Tester
I did mostly lean overs when I was at OO based in MSP and I flew half of his TT in 2.5 years. And I was dropping mil leave every month!
03-21-2025 | 11:19 AM
#778
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You may be right but I’m not sure it makes it sound any better. A 1 year FO is more qualified to fly those conditions than an 18 year captain instructor? You would think a sim instructor would be an expert at monitoring and would have hopefully called out all these issues in short final since they do it day in and day out as well. I don’t know, the whole situation is pretty crazy.
03-21-2025 | 11:23 AM
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Not even close. That was the era of the 250 hour wonder. I got hired in 2007 with 1000 hours and that was high in my class other than people coming from other regionals. The lowest in my class had ~400 total. I heard several stories of people getting their first actual IFR time in a CRJ.
03-21-2025 | 02:17 PM
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Pure speculation but it seems this captain spent far more time in sim world than real world. In his sim world he’s used to letting people muck things up, using them as teachable debrief items after the sim. I’m sure he’s seen thousands of hard sim landings where nothing breaks.
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