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Runner 06-01-2010 03:56 PM

Landing in Narita
 
First of all, please don't misconstrue this post as a criticism or commentary of any type on FDX 80.

I do feel like this video of a KAL 777 fighting strong winds / windshear might help one (that may or may not have flown into Narita before) more clearly understand what one is up against when landing at this airport with these extreme conditions.

YouTube - Boeing777 Good Landing?

HSLD 06-01-2010 04:00 PM

Freeze the playback at :14 seconds and take a good look at the wind sock.

OK continue with your analysis..... :rolleyes:

Runner 06-01-2010 04:03 PM


Originally Posted by HSLD (Post 820215)
Freeze the playback at :14 seconds and take a good look at the wind sock.

OK continue with your analysis..... :rolleyes:

I saw that too...but look at that thing bucking at such a slow ground speed there towards the end of the video...something doesn't add up

CactusCrew 06-01-2010 04:07 PM


Originally Posted by HSLD (Post 820215)
Freeze the playback at :14 seconds and take a good look at the wind sock.

OK continue with your analysis..... :rolleyes:




I saw that too...but look at that thing bucking at such a slow ground speed there towards the end of the video...something doesn't add up
Were you flying that day for KAL ?

:rolleyes:

bcrosier 06-01-2010 04:08 PM

I don't know - looks like a PIO to me...

Runner 06-01-2010 04:11 PM


Originally Posted by CactusCrew (Post 820219)
Were you flying that day for KAL ?

:rolleyes:

yes...all has been revealed ;)

CactusCrew 06-01-2010 04:13 PM


Originally Posted by bcrosier (Post 820220)
I don't know - looks like a PIO to me...

Lots of aileron and elevator flappin around ...

HSLD 06-01-2010 05:49 PM

I'd go with PIO as well (lots of back & forth aileron & no visible rudder), in addition, the auto-speed brakes didn't appear to be armed (didn't deploy).

Back on topic, NRT does have lots of terrain related mechanical turbulence.

J Dawg 06-01-2010 07:00 PM


Originally Posted by HSLD (Post 820280)
in addition, the auto-speed brakes didn't appear to be armed (didn't deploy).

If you are referring to the auto-ground spoilers, yes they did deploy


Originally Posted by HSLD (Post 820215)

OK continue with your analysis..... :rolleyes:


FlyerJosh 06-01-2010 07:32 PM

The FO called for a go around, the captain didn't respond, so the FO assumed that the CA was incapacititated. This was the resulting struggle for control at low altitude. :rolleyes:


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