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06-01-2010, 03:56 PM

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Landing in Narita

First of all, please don't misconstrue this post as a criticism or commentary of any type on FDX 80.

I do feel like this video of a KAL 777 fighting strong winds / windshear might help one (that may or may not have flown into Narita before) more clearly understand what one is up against when landing at this airport with these extreme conditions.

YouTube - Boeing777 Good Landing?

06-01-2010, 04:00 PM

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Freeze the playback at :14 seconds and take a good look at the wind sock.

OK continue with your analysis.....

06-01-2010, 04:03 PM

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Freeze the playback at :14 seconds and take a good look at the wind sock.

OK continue with your analysis.....

I saw that too...but look at that thing bucking at such a slow ground speed there towards the end of the video...something doesn't add up

06-01-2010, 04:07 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by HSLD

Freeze the playback at :14 seconds and take a good look at the wind sock.

OK continue with your analysis.....

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I saw that too...but look at that thing bucking at such a slow ground speed there towards the end of the video...something doesn't add up

Were you flying that day for KAL ?

06-01-2010, 04:08 PM

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I don't know - looks like a PIO to me...

06-01-2010, 04:11 PM

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Were you flying that day for KAL ?

yes...all has been revealed

06-01-2010, 04:13 PM

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I don't know - looks like a PIO to me...

Lots of aileron and elevator flappin around ...

06-01-2010, 05:49 PM

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I'd go with PIO as well (lots of back & forth aileron & no visible rudder), in addition, the auto-speed brakes didn't appear to be armed (didn't deploy).

Back on topic, NRT does have lots of terrain related mechanical turbulence.

06-01-2010, 07:00 PM

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in addition, the auto-speed brakes didn't appear to be armed (didn't deploy).

If you are referring to the auto-ground spoilers, yes they did deploy

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OK continue with your analysis.....

06-01-2010, 07:32 PM

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The FO called for a go around, the captain didn't respond, so the FO assumed that the CA was incapacititated. This was the resulting struggle for control at low altitude.