Jumbo Air France jet clips COM 6293
 

Air France, Comair, fender bender
 

NEW YORK (CBSNewYork/AP) – An Air France Airbus A380 collided with a Delta commuter plane while taxiing to the runway for takeoff from John F. Kennedy International Airport on Monday night.

The Federal Aviation Administration’s Jim Peters said at approximately 8:15 p.m. the left wing of Paris-bound Air France Flight 7 struck the tail of Comair Flight 6293, which had just landed from Boston with 62 passengers and 4 crew on board. No injuries were reported. Passengers were removed from the Comair flight and both planes were towed.

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Going to guess the whale won.

I would have thought the wing of an A380 would be higher than the tail of a 200...

Does AF even have A380's?

Man I was taxing there on a jet blue flight commuting home when it happened, I just barely missed it ...

Read it was a Crj 700, none the less yeah you would think the wing is taller than the tail of the other

poor taste alert:

something about scope karma here.

yes they have 380s... just saw it in JFK the other day and they start flying it to IAD in June going from 3 777s -to- 1 777 and 1 380.

Pics or it didn't happen :)

Two Planes Collide on Ground at JFK | NBC New York :eek:

Well I have seen pictures at work and it looks like the impact spun the CRJ about 60 degrees to the left. There are wrinkles and buckling on the fuselage of the RJ. It disrupted operations there at the DL regional gates for about an hour.

The video on the bottom of that link is pretty crazy... Bet it was one heck of a ride for the guys up front...

It's amazing that the tail didn't rip off. Are there any pictures of the damaged planes?

pics, plus video without the commercial

Air France Airbus A380 Clips Smaller Delta Jet at Kennedy Airport in New York | NYCAviation

Uh, "Clear right". "Clear le..., oh sh!t..."

Can't blame the FO for this one....

The airplane/wing of the A380 sits fairly low, compared to a B747. I believe it's one of the reasons it only has inboard thrust reverser's (so the outboard's don't ingest FOD, on narrower runways).

Maybe the AF pilots are sick of DCI carriers blocking up every taxiway in JFK waiting to get into the crappiest terminal and parking spots in the country. Either way right now DL management is going to DALPA and asking for scope relief because of this (they'll need lets say 40 more 76 seaters for this. And DALPA will respond sure why not we always are happy to give up scope). Or finally if this was a Comair plane DL is just happy this plane is gone off their certificate.

CNBC says "it probably wasn't a good idea to taxi in front of the a380"

pprune has head on pictures. The CRJ tail is leaning about 10-15 degrees to the left(the exact opposite of what I would have expected).

It's more than a fender bender. Have to wonder if a tail bent that much, and the twisting of the fuselage, can be repaired.

Looked stationary to me, I think the CA guys are off the hook if they pass the whiz quiz.

But yeah, that was no fender bender. Damn frogs anyway...was it just me or did they have indicated airspeed on that taxi?

The audio has air france being told to hold short for traffic which obviously they didn't do.

Op's check good!

Maybe not, at $22M new it might be cheaper to scrap it for parts.

I guess they can do a heavy check, rebuild the LDG gear to be safe, and go over the structure with a micrometer to check for warping. Plus the new tail.

It might cost more to fix the 380 than to replace the RJ if they have to tear open the wing structure to check for damage.

Source? Link?

and this, my friends, is why you keep your seatbelt on until you reach the gate. I just love the people that have to get their seatbelt off and be the first stand up...to go nowhere!

I don't feel like going back and listening to the clip again, so admittedly my memory may be off, but what I heard was the A380 get cleared from his ramp to turn left onto Twy A and then to hold short/give way to traffic at Twy KD which is much further along A than where the collision occured. The collision occurred at Twy M and I never heard Ground give any warnings to Air France to give way there. By the same token, I'd be surprised if the Air France didn't at least see the CR7 waiting to enter the ramp at M and just didn't judge the wingtip clearance correctly

Let's put this fancy "embed" feature to use:

I haven't heard the archive audio, so I cannot speak with 100% certainty, but the clip that has been posted is edited (so further clearances may have been edited out) and that feed is a scan of both ground frequencies (so other clearances may have been scanned over). There's most likely other conversations that took place that we're not hearing.

I doubt the Capt would be get away

I doubt the capt would get away scott free, drug test or not. They did not maintain wingtip clearance and hit the Comair jet.

AirFrance A380 & Comair CRJ play "tag" at JFK
 

The video speaks for itself....Anyone at JFK last night (Monday) to see this live & in person??
(04/11/2011)

YouTube - Air France Plane Collide @JFK... As seen in new channel [JFK - USA]

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2011/04/11...-city-airport/

ATC Audio....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WjuCI2yAVD8

Comin through.... scuse me, pardon me, scuse me.......

Wow. The CRJ was tossed like a toy. Crazy. Had to be super startling for everyone on the CRJ.

Here's how it REALLY happened:

YouTube - Parody-Air France A380 Collides With Delta CRJ-700 at JFK

:D

If that OH nose wheel was lifted off the ground, it may have been part of the reason why the tail was not torn off. Impressive to say the least.

I was talking about the COMAIR (CA) pilots. Also known as OH.

The AF Capt is toast...he's on video taxiing in a congested area with indicated airspeed, and he did probably somewhere between $15-40M in damage.

It appears he was taxiing at about 23 mph (it took 7 seconds for the bus to pass, 240 ft in 7 seconds is about 23 mph).

holy cow!!!

a380, impounded? with wheel boots?

Another reason to get rid of RJs! You heard it here..."Toy Planes"! Squeal like a pig RJ!

If he's issued a violation by the FAA... does that matter to the French Civil Aviation Authority? Will he not be allowed to exercise privileges in USA?

They were told to Hold short of E and give way to traffic at KD...both are considerably further down from taxiway M where this occurred.

Looks more like an A340:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2StZVDUck9M

That didn't take long :cool: