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cardiomd 04-17-2013 05:51 PM

No discussion would be complete without this gem.

MIA92FA051

The only time "focusing on your instrument" could be bad.

cardiomd 04-17-2013 05:54 PM


Originally Posted by UnderOveur (Post 1392893)
Does anyone have a reference for #2 that is particularly memorable?

I seem to remember some doctor or surgeon or somebody who stalled on a base-final, and did the same thing years later. IIRC he killed several people... if I get some time I'll look it up, I'm fuzzy on the details. Couple people were teasing me about that at the FBO once.

One can see how it would happen though to students it is a potentially high-workload time.

Yoda2 04-17-2013 06:12 PM


Originally Posted by cardiomd (Post 1393320)
No discussion would be complete without this gem.

MIA92FA051

The only time "focusing on your instrument" could be bad.

OK that's the new #1 Nice...

bcpilot 04-17-2013 08:13 PM

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Tail number N304PA
May 10, 2004
Julian CA


"On May 10, 2004, about 2051, Pacific daylight time, a Piper PA-44-180, N304PA, collided with mountainous terrain at Julian, California. The airplane was operated by Pan Am International Flight Academy under the provisions of 14 CFR Part 91. Both private pilots were fatally injured and the airplane was destroyed. Visual meteorological conditions prevailed and an instrument flight plan had been filed.............."

I had read about this accident a long time ago, I think this needs to be told to every pilot, specially a new instrument Pilot.

This accident is a vital lesson to be learnt on why NOT to accept every clearance from the ATC blindly..

cardiomd 04-18-2013 04:00 AM


Originally Posted by Yoda2 (Post 1393333)
OK that's the new #1 Nice...

The take home message is if you pull back on the stick too hard, it could kill you. ;)

I found the other report -- this guy ran out of fuel, killed his first wife, then does the worst instrument approach in the world and kills his son and second wife. Makes you wonder how many times he got away with this nonsense.

NTSB report details cause of Hatch plane crash | The Journal Gazette

CEN11FA417

Essential reading for any overly aggressive, inattentive, or arrogant pilot... we've all seen the type. Also have to consciously fight against any traits like that in ourselves in any flight, every flight.

UnderOveur 04-18-2013 05:48 AM


Originally Posted by cardiomd (Post 1393470)
then does the worst instrument approach in the world and kills his son and second wife.

Not to quibble in any way, as your post is spot on. That said...


The crash that killed Dr. Stephen Hatch, his wife and seriously injured his son was the result of a stall due to inadequate air speed, according to the final report from the National Transportation Safety Board.

Stephen Hatch was an anesthesiologist and partner in Pain Management Associates and also was piloting a similar plane in 2003 that crashed, killing his then-wife and two children. Austin Hatch also survived that crash.
:eek:

This is mind-bottling.

UnderOveur 04-18-2013 05:50 AM


Originally Posted by cardiomd (Post 1393470)
The take home message is if you pull back on the stick too hard, it could kill you. ;)

But, what a way to go! Doing the two things I love most in life. :cool:


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