Asiana 777 Crash at SFO
 

Anyone confirm?

There is a ground stop for a "disabled aircraft". A friend working out of SFO says there is a lot of rescue vehicle chatter on tower frequency.

Here is a link to the video.

San Francisco Plane Crash: 5 Fast Facts You Need to Know | HEAVY

Confirmed now...

Asiana crash today
 

Asiana airlines 777 just crashed in SFO its looks really bad too...

WD at AWA

Crash at KSFO
 

Breaking News:
http://www.heavy.com/news/2013/07/san-francisco-plane-crash-asiana-flight/

Some videos on YOUTUBE. Hope all got out OK

Pray for everyone involved (pax, rescue, medical, etc) and for their families.

News reporting everyone is alive but injuries. Radar track seems to indicate a ballooned landing or botched go-around, as they gained 200 feet after touchdown.

http://drudge.tw/12aqr8n

And we have a winner for the first moronic statement of the thread!

All of the usual BS from CNN news reporters and eye witnesses who use misleading or incorrect terminology. The only facts at this time are that it was a landing accident and the aircraft departed the runway. Tail is missing, mid cabin roof burned out as a result of fire. Right engine separated and impacted fuselage forward of right wing as a result of crash damage, and left engine not visible in news video. Airplane is upright although gear appears collapsed despite some early news reports to the contrary. No sign of passengers, but at least one slide deployed aircraft left in front of wing.

Now news video shows aircraft hit short of runway, on rocky ledge just prior to displaced threshold....tail broke off and is lying short of beginning of usable runway.

Asiana 777 crash landed at SFO
 

Looks like many got out. Airplane is upright but missing the tail. Fire has now consumed the mid section.

I am thinking that they had the spoilers out and hit the tail hard.

Watching on the news, tail section completly detached and broken up on the approach end of the runway.

Looks like most got out. No reports of fatalities.

Drudge is posting a Tweet from a passenger.

Wow...what a tragedy. Is there a link to this event?

There is a photo of both sides of the horizontal stab and vertical stab right at the beginning of the runway and a lot debris right of centerline. Looks like he hit just prior to the threshold.

http://i.imgur.com/T5VYNHz.png

Hit the seawall?

Also looks like the GS on the left side was OTS

!SFO 06/005 SFO NAV ILS RWY 28L GP OTS WEF 1306011400-1308222359

From what we can see it landed well short of the runway. Debris starts at the water. A tail strike is being talked about by witnesses.

Just saw video on Fox, showing where it looks like it hit rocky bulkhead before runway threshold, debris in the water.

All I have is the radar, the pics look like they came up a little short. Looks like low and slow(radar indicates around 100kts at impact) and was too aggressive on the correction.

That's what the video footage looks like....the question now is why....

Just some facts...

Video shows the tail laying very near the approach end of the runway.

Debris starts at the waters edge of the beginning of the runway.

The rest of the aircraft is resting further down the runway off to the side.

The rocks on the shoreline at the approach end have been disturbed.

Looks like one of the main gear is near the approach end too.

Weather is perfect.....calm and clear.

Opinion / speculation...

Landed short? Remember the British Airways 777 landing? I wonder if they suffered the same problem. Only time will tell.

Now the important stuff...

I hope everyone is safe.

Edit...news is reporting everyone is safely off. Hope this is true.

Landed there yesterday. ILS G/S are inop for 28R and 28L.

28L.

This is just the helicopter feed live: Plane crashed upon landing at San Francisco Intl. airport | Fox News Video

Looks like No.2 engine is well forward of the wing up against the fuselage. One picture during the evac shows smoke from that side. Might be cause of the fuselage fire?

SFO Tower 1.
http://archive-server.liveatc.net/ks...2013-1800Z.mp3
(I heard go around in this one from the asiana cockpit)

SFO Tower 2
http://archive-server.liveatc.net/ks...2013-1800Z.mp3

22 mins in about on tower 1. 1822Z.


On Tower #2: Asiana 214 checks into "SFO Tower #2" at 22:40 looking for landing clearance. No response. Then 214 checks in again looking for landing clearance at 23:40. At 24:47 "All aircraft standby". Very tense tone of voices begin. SFO and Class B closes. Horizon and Skywest go around.

Even though they are labeled Tower and Tower 2 they might have the same, or very similar, recordings.

Looks like the plane hit short of the runway. There are marks and impact inprints right at the waterline. Also the elevetors and rudder are located at the approach end and not even on the threshold of the actual runway. Question is was there something mechinal that caused them to land short or was it pilot error. In US Navy carrier terms this was a ramp strike.

A SFO USCG vessel found a body, CNN reports.

Witness also reports the aircraft spun 360degees like a Top. Missing empennage caused this? i doubt 360 degrees. but maybe. Since the plane is fairly intact, fuselage and wings, i doubt it spun much more than simply being displaced off runway heading.

It's embarrassing to listen to the alleged "experts" on the 24/7 news channels talk about what has happened.

Yes, they could have spun out on the runway, and it's possible based on the location of the detached engine pressed up against the fuselage (notice I did not say which engine, we can't know that at this point). The fact that the glide slope transmitter is out for both runways is possibly the most important bit of information we know at this point, in what looks like a "short landing" by a long body aircraft. Easy to do with the high cockpit position for two tired pilots and a possibly unstable approach.

Don't know if it's posted already but here is a live feed. Plane crashed upon landing at San Francisco Intl. airport | Fox News Video

Early tail strike on approach end sea wall (rocks) appears to have caused tail separation. Pilot input prior to strike could have been affected by smoke in the cockpit, engine failure, running out of fuel, or just pilot error. Assuming the pilots survived and the recorders are available (probably in the overrun area) the NTSB will have answers soon. Unfortunately the press is already assigning blame.

YUP! it gives the media something to do as the seconds timer ticks ticks ticks. Kinda like a rain delay at a Nascar race or baseball game. BLAH BLAH. THey also keep showing filmed, previously scene video footage, and reporting the same thing.

I could not believe the news is showing a photograph of passengers running away from the aircraft with their hand carried (overhead bin) BAGGAGE.

Remember the British 777 that lost both engines on short approach? It would have looked a lot like this if had new landing in SFO that day.