lifter123

I had a situation the other day while flying that almost had me make an emergency landing at an AFB. While I was talking with the controllers and had declared an emergency with them, was curious if anyone had personal experience with this situation? Was there a lot of paperwork as a result? What about getting your mx's clearance to do work at the base? I was able to land at a nearby civilian airport.

Vertigo1960

Glad you are ok.

Not to sound arrogant, but who cares about paperwork? I say this because if that is in the back of your mind during the emergency, you could actually create a problem versus walking away. Be selfish: Those airfields are your tax dollars at work.

Years ago a NW crew diverted to Tehran. Not too newsworthy as all worked out.

Again, glad you are ok.

abelenky

When I was a student, one of my instructors had to land at a military facility in an emergency.

(heard second hand, and a long time ago... so may not be 100% accurate)

He told me that on the approach the tower controllers were doing their up most. But once on the ground, the ground security was extremely hostile and suspicious, even delaying some medical attention while they checked out the situation.

They did give him a considerable stack of paperwork for an Unauthorized Landing. But he simply wrote on it, "Smoke in cockpit; Declared Emergency", and gave it back. I believe they accepted that.

rickair7777

The military understands that civil aircraft may need to use their fields in an emergency. If it's 121, the extent of your paperwork will probably just be the same IOR you would submit for any diversion and the company will handle any follow-up. It would probably take a while to coordinate PAX handling and transport, although if the base has a military pax terminal that would simplify things.

The fact that you're 121 means they won't be to concerned about who you are or why you had to land there. If you're not 121, you'll probably be answering more questions as security might be a concern.

Hostility and suspicion might be expected from the quick-response security forces (that's their job) but the duty officer should be easy to deal with. This assumes an actual emergency...if you landed their by mistake (it happens) I know of cases where they've refused to grant a take-off clearance, which means you have to hire a mechanic and a truck to disassemble and remove the aircraft.

You'll know you're in real trouble if they call the FBI..the military can't detain or prosecute a civilian so they need the FBI if they think there are grounds for that.

lifter123

Understood, which is why I declared with them immediately and went direct. Engine gave me a few hiccups and cowling started shaking. When I was about 3 miles out, engine began running normal. I advised tower that I was going to continue the climb over the airfield, gain a few thousand, so i could dead stick to the civilian airport if the engine went out on me. I stayed high and circled down when over the airport. Luckily the engine ran normal after the initial shake.

I was just analyzing the situation after the fact to see if anyone had any stories. Cheers!

porqueno

a Piedmont Dash lost an engine out of Hilton HEad and put down at marine Beaufort. They were nice enough to feed all the passengers at the mess hall. MX drove down with a new engine hung it there and flew it out.

deadstick35

Can you imagine the paperwork of putting a plane in a school yard when a military airfield was available? Heck, I'd use the parade field if I couldn't make the runway. As mentioned earlier, put "paperwork" out of your mind. It's so far down the list of considerations during an emergency....it's not on the list.

DirectTo

Several years ago I was coming out of Abilene, TX in a older Saratoga and got smoke in the cockpit. Declared emergency, shut everything off, landed at Dyess AFB just to the west. Just cleared the runway and got out of the plane. Met with CFR and military police.
Described exactly what happened, one of the MPs wrote it all down. Didn't seem hostile or anything negative...took me inside some sort of reception area off the ramp, gave me water (July in Texas), and scrounged up probably ten mechanics who poked around, found the problem, and disabled the system so I could hop back over to ABI.
Not worth your life just to avoid a little paperwork and headaches.

JohnnyG

Oh wow, I think I was there for that. We also had an old man in a 414 mistake the two airfields, ABI and DYS. He was leading the SPs on a wild goose chase and wouldn't stop.

A little common sense goes a long way, and when civilians find themselves on military bases when they wouldn't ordinarily, they are often surprised at the hospitality they receive after the initial checkout.

e6bpilot

It happens. It has has happened in the past and it will happen in the future. Nearest suitable field means the closest place you can land. It doesn't matter whether it is civil or mil. Security forces are going to be more suspicious at bases with nukes and other sensitive programs.

The thing above about the base cops not being able to detain civilians is not true. They can and will, but if you comply with their instructions it shouldn't be an issue.