Safety through AOA
07-30-2013, 05:18 PM
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Originally Posted by galaxy flyer
I don't have any Citation books, it's been 30 years since I flew it, but I think it was AF presentations--red = slow, green = good. And I could be wrong there, too. It's been almost 30 Yeats since I bailed out, literally and figuratively, from the A-10, the last AF plane I flew having that display.
The AOA presentation is so small on the Global screens, you really have to look for it. I flew with an ex-French Navy pilot recently and we both missed it.
GF
The AOA presentation is so small on the Global screens, you really have to look for it. I flew with an ex-French Navy pilot recently and we both missed it.
GF
)Red = fast (isn't necessarily good)
Green = slow (causing all sorts of problems!)
This is in the landing configuration of course where colors count.
Once the gear is up it is all about numbers.
07-30-2013, 05:37 PM
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Originally Posted by galaxy flyer
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It would nice if the FAA Safety guys went down the hall or across the country and met with the Aircraft Certification guys. AoA is not recognized as a legal "tool" for performance. Current Bombardier planes now have AOA indications on the panel and, where installed, in the HUD, but, because it can't be used legally, the AFM contains not data, there are no markings or data for different performance points--like on-speed for Vref, V2, etc. The C-5 manual had specific numbers-7.2 units for approach, 9 units for V2.
GF
It would nice if the FAA Safety guys went down the hall or across the country and met with the Aircraft Certification guys. AoA is not recognized as a legal "tool" for performance. Current Bombardier planes now have AOA indications on the panel and, where installed, in the HUD, but, because it can't be used legally, the AFM contains not data, there are no markings or data for different performance points--like on-speed for Vref, V2, etc. The C-5 manual had specific numbers-7.2 units for approach, 9 units for V2.
GF
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08-07-2013, 03:41 PM
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We have one big one to the left of the PFD on the captains side. The only time I really look at it is during cruise as just another reference I can use for when I can go higher. Occasionally, I'll glance at it on approach, but with predictive magenta airspeed as a better indicator of future results w/o action.
08-08-2013, 03:38 PM
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08-15-2013, 04:30 AM
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This video might have already been linked in the thread but I'll repost it here.
Video: Icon Reveals A5?s Pilot-Friendly AoA System | Flying Magazine
The article with it outlines the advantages of AoA once again and it mentions the article that I was trying to find to link in this month's 'Flying' magazine.
Video: Icon Reveals A5?s Pilot-Friendly AoA System | Flying Magazine
The article with it outlines the advantages of AoA once again and it mentions the article that I was trying to find to link in this month's 'Flying' magazine.
For more on the current state of the art in angle-of-attack indication systems, check out our feature article “Taming Stalls and Spins with Technology” in the August issue of Flying.
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