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Old 01-10-2014, 07:27 AM
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Nice job Capt…nice job.

See Terrifying Video of Hawaiian Plane Crash From Inside the Cabin - Yahoo

Dramatic video of a plane crash that killed a woman off the coast of Hawaii last month shows the moment of impact and an orderly evacuation of the fuselage by passengers, who used plane debris to stay afloat as they waited to be rescued.
Passenger Ferdinand Puentes, 39, was on the 2002 Cessna Grand Caravan and captured the footage of passengers' bracing for impact moments before the plane crashed into the water Dec. 11.
The plane departed from Molokai, Hawaii, bound for Honolulu with nine people on board. Hawaii's state health director, Loretta Fuddy, 65, was the only fatality.
Survivor: Hawaii Plane Crash 'Like Instant Brakes'
"We heard a bang," passenger Jacob Key told ABC News affiliate KITV-TV. "While the thing climbed up to make a turn. Then bang, that's it."
Puentes continued to keep the camera rolling after the crash as the fuselage immediately filled with water.
"Just as soon as he opened the door, water just rushed and filled our feet up to our ankles," Puentes told ABC News.
In the video, the passengers can be seen making their way out calmly.
"There wasn't panic or anything. It was very orderly. It wasn't like any of the movies or the TV shows," passenger C. Phillip Hollstein Jr. told The Associated Press.
Out in the water, they clung to the wings and debris of the plane with the camera still rolling.
"The water was rough. The pilot was trying to get everybody together but it was kind of impossible because of the waves," Rosa Key, another passenger, told KITV.
In two groups, they floated for an hour in choppy waters.
Hawaii Plane Crash Blamed on Engine Failure
"It was as if time stopped and everything you remembered in your past -- loved ones. I didn't say goodbye to them. Your whole life just goes in front of you," Puentes recalled.
While in the water, Puentes took a picture of himself with his bright-yellow life preserver nestled closely around his neck.
One of the passengers managed to swim ashore while the others waited it out until the rescuers finally arrived.
"It gave me a little hope when we saw the first plane. The one that came and circled around," passenger Key said.
The passengers were eventually rescued by the U.S. Coast Guard. Authorities say the cause of the crash was likely engine failure.
Meanwhile, Fuddy's death in the crash fueled conspiracy theories because she was the public official who released President Obama's birth certificate in 2011 after repeated inquiries, proving he was born in the United States.
Fuddy made it out of the sinking plane fine, but died after escaping. It's unclear what caused her death.
Passengers credited the pilot, Clyde Kawasaki, for landing the plane right-side up, which allowed passengers time to exit.
"The way how he handled the flight and everything, he kept his calm, it's just amazing how he did it," Puentes said. "He is my hero."
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"Suddenly, the alarm sounds. The plane is going down spiraling into the ocean."

Excellent, excellent journalism.
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Things that make you say hmmmmmmmmmm. I'm sure it's just all a big coincidence.
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After watching that video, she was dying that day regardless. It sure as hell wasn't a direct result of that airplane crash. I make rougher landings than that every day!!!
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PT6 engines are reliable? If that why the FAA gives them a free pass for overwater flights?
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PT6 engines are reliable?
Yes. Infallible no.
If that why the FAA gives them a free pass for overwater flights?
What do you mean a "free pass"?
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Originally Posted by BizPilot View Post
PT6 engines are reliable? If that why the FAA gives them a free pass for overwater flights?
As the old saying goes, Thank God and Pratt & Whitney? I have over two thousand hours behind a PT6 and trust them with my life. I have my own theory about why these two PT6's have failed in Hawaii in the last few months but I'm not going to get into that, and no, it's no conspiracy.

Free Pass? Maybe for 91 flights. Part 135 SE anything over water must remain within glide of shore, except for the purpose of takeoff and landing and then only if there are lifevests for each occupant in the aircraft. If there aren't lifevests on board for everyone then the aircraft must be within glide at all times, including takeoff and landing.

The FAA hates SE over water but there isn't anything they can do to stop it from happening unless the regs get changed.
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Originally Posted by BizPilot View Post
PT6 engines are reliable? If that why the FAA gives them a free pass for overwater flights?
Nobody gets a free pass from needing correct equipment for overwater operations. Single engine aircraft require people have flotation devices if you are farther than power off glide from shore.

are you talking about 91.509 (large turbine multi engine aircraft) only need it if you are more than 50 miles or more off shore, and even more requirements if more than 100miles.

Also this flight was operated under part 135 right? more requirements there im sure... But im not familiar with 135.
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Fuddy made it out of the sinking plane fine, but died after escaping. It's unclear what caused her death.

Huh? What the heck does that even mean? How can it be unclear? Did she drown? Shark bite? Sasquatch? Choke on a piece of popcorn? How can it be unclear how someone dies?



Also, props to the Capt. Better than many of my landings on hard ground!
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Sully's retirement job isn't working out like he hoped it would...
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