mooney crash at KLKP
07-21-2014 | 12:41 PM
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mooney crash at KLKP
Mooney M20F, N6467Q: Fatal accident occurred July 19, 2014 in Lake Placid, New York - Aviation News & Events since 2009 - The Kathryn Report - Kathryn's Report
My dad linked me this because we had to do a go-around the first time being there this winter. Had it been a humid-summer day like this probably was, we may have met a similar conclusion.
The cause seems weird though. Multiple articles are saying that failure to retract the flaps played a part (so they think), but that doesn't make much sense to me. To clear those trees i'd make SURE I had mine down at least a bit until I cleared the trees on the other end and could easily make it above the surrounding peaks.
I feel like the more likely scenario is they added full power and retracted the flaps too quickly, stalled, and crashed.
Regardless, RIP.
My dad linked me this because we had to do a go-around the first time being there this winter. Had it been a humid-summer day like this probably was, we may have met a similar conclusion.
The cause seems weird though. Multiple articles are saying that failure to retract the flaps played a part (so they think), but that doesn't make much sense to me. To clear those trees i'd make SURE I had mine down at least a bit until I cleared the trees on the other end and could easily make it above the surrounding peaks.
I feel like the more likely scenario is they added full power and retracted the flaps too quickly, stalled, and crashed.
Regardless, RIP.
07-21-2014 | 01:26 PM
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Flap procedures on a go-around depends on the airplane (see your AFM). Usually you bring up some but not all flaps. Some flaps helps improve Vx which is what you need. Too much flaps creates so much drag that the airplane might not climb at all under some conditions.
07-21-2014 | 01:56 PM
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Flap procedures on a go-around depends on the airplane (see your AFM). Usually you bring up some but not all flaps. Some flaps helps improve Vx which is what you need. Too much flaps creates so much drag that the airplane might not climb at all under some conditions.
The venerable Cessna 172 that most everybody has flown at one time took out 40 degrees of flaps in the 80's I believe (might have been late 70's) due to climb performance - the last 10 degrees does not give much Cl compared to Cd.
When doing go around it would be in your best interest to get especially the last of the flaps out quickly, unless you were so slowly that you would need every ounce of lift until you regain some airspeed. Newer models just have 30 degrees flaps.
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07-21-2014 | 02:24 PM
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Flap procedures on a go-around depends on the airplane (see your AFM). Usually you bring up some but not all flaps. Some flaps helps improve Vx which is what you need. Too much flaps creates so much drag that the airplane might not climb at all under some conditions.
07-21-2014 | 03:41 PM
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My 1966 "E" model Mooney's 40 page POH does not even have a procedure for a "balked landing" or "go around"!
What caught my eye was that there were 3 adults on board. Full fuel useful load on 73M was 566 lbs.
Another factor could be manual gear and flaps. If this a/c had the manual Johnson bar for gear and the hydraulically pumped flaps the pilot would be very busy just trying to configure the plane. You use your right arm/shoulder for the gear and right hand for the flaps, prop, mixture and throttle.
It will be interesting to see what the NTSB determines as the cause
The NTSB will publish it's findings here: http://www.ntsb.gov/aviationquery/Ac...th=7&year=2014
Regardless, RIP.
What caught my eye was that there were 3 adults on board. Full fuel useful load on 73M was 566 lbs.
Another factor could be manual gear and flaps. If this a/c had the manual Johnson bar for gear and the hydraulically pumped flaps the pilot would be very busy just trying to configure the plane. You use your right arm/shoulder for the gear and right hand for the flaps, prop, mixture and throttle.
It will be interesting to see what the NTSB determines as the cause
The NTSB will publish it's findings here: http://www.ntsb.gov/aviationquery/Ac...th=7&year=2014
Regardless, RIP.
07-27-2014 | 07:32 PM
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Flap procedures on a go-around depends on the airplane (see your AFM). Usually you bring up some but not all flaps. Some flaps helps improve Vx which is what you need. Too much flaps creates so much drag that the airplane might not climb at all under some conditions.
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