Details of C402 mishap at KHYA in 1994
11-11-2014, 05:11 PM
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Details of C402 mishap at KHYA in 1994
This is a quote from another forum relating an experience of an acquaintance. I've asked for some further details, but yet to receive a reply.
I've done the NTSB database search for all things 'Hyannis' and 'Island Air' and not come up with anything close to this related mishap.
If the poster is correct and it should be a well known mishap to regional pilots, I was hoping someone on this board might actually have some further information about it - like the actual date - or maybe someone with better Google-Fu skills than I can find the actual investigation.
....He deadheaded back from Nantucket one night in terrible weather (Island Air), and struck the power lines only one dot low on the glide slope to runway 15 Hyannis.
I am sure his story is (should be) well known among regional pilots.
I am sure his story is (should be) well known among regional pilots.
If the poster is correct and it should be a well known mishap to regional pilots, I was hoping someone on this board might actually have some further information about it - like the actual date - or maybe someone with better Google-Fu skills than I can find the actual investigation.
11-11-2014, 07:29 PM
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Accident occurred Friday, November 18, 1994 in HYANNIS, MA
Aircraft: CESSNA 402C, registration: N402BK
2 Planes Crash On Cape Cod, Killing Pilots - NYTimes.com
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Aircraft: CESSNA 402C, registration: N402BK
2 Planes Crash On Cape Cod, Killing Pilots - NYTimes.com
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11-12-2014, 05:25 AM
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Originally Posted by 7AC2B60
Accident occurred Friday, November 18, 1994 in HYANNIS, MA
Aircraft: CESSNA 402C, registration: N402BK
2 Planes Crash On Cape Cod, Killing Pilots - NYTimes.com
NYC95FA030
Aircraft: CESSNA 402C, registration: N402BK
2 Planes Crash On Cape Cod, Killing Pilots - NYTimes.com
NYC95FA030
How did you search this.
My search criteria on the database should have brought this up but did not
With the information you provided (Month, City, State, Type of aircraft, number of engines, Part 91, aircraft destoryed and fatal injuries, etc...) the query still did not produce any results.
Then I used the NTSB nimber and it popped up in the query.
My question was answered though in the end - so thanks again for the info.
11-12-2014, 07:39 PM
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"How did you search"
quick Google search:
Island Air Nantucket crash (info from your post)
yielded:
https://www.google.com/?gws_rd=ssl#q...antucket+crash
fourth article listed the accident info, including Nov 20 1994 article date, accident on "Friday", so 11/18/1994
then NTSB accident search by year & month for 11/18/1994 accident review
List by Month
Island Air Nantucket crash (info from your post)
yielded:
https://www.google.com/?gws_rd=ssl#q...antucket+crash
fourth article listed the accident info, including Nov 20 1994 article date, accident on "Friday", so 11/18/1994
then NTSB accident search by year & month for 11/18/1994 accident review
List by Month
11-13-2014, 04:03 AM
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Originally Posted by 7AC2B60
quick Google search:
Island Air Nantucket crash (info from your post)
yielded:
https://www.google.com/?gws_rd=ssl#q...antucket+crash
fourth article listed the accident info, including Nov 20 1994 article date, accident on "Friday", so 11/18/1994
then NTSB accident search by year & month for 11/18/1994 accident review
List by Month
Island Air Nantucket crash (info from your post)
yielded:
https://www.google.com/?gws_rd=ssl#q...antucket+crash
fourth article listed the accident info, including Nov 20 1994 article date, accident on "Friday", so 11/18/1994
then NTSB accident search by year & month for 11/18/1994 accident review
List by Month
I did try the Island Air - even search Wiki which had a paragraph for accidents which didn't list this one - plus it seemed to be another (same?) airline operating out of Hawaii.
Did you use a different search than the NTSB database query?
As I said - I used a lot of the info provide by your article in the search criteria and it yielded nothing.
Note: I clicked on your link for the month search and then backed it up one and I see that it takes you to the same home page on the database search page that I have been using.
11-13-2014, 04:36 AM
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So was it an urban myth, flawed approach procedure, or some other issue? The NTSB writeup makes it sound like pilot error getting too low on the glideslope.
There was a similar accident involving a Baron doing an ILS at Greensboro (GSO) a few years ago, the pilot apparently got low and slow, then lost control and crashed into a house. Purely due to getting too low on the GS.
There was a similar accident involving a Baron doing an ILS at Greensboro (GSO) a few years ago, the pilot apparently got low and slow, then lost control and crashed into a house. Purely due to getting too low on the GS.
11-13-2014, 04:40 AM
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Sounds like a approach in bad weather with turbulence and wind shifts where the pilot got too low on the glideslope.
The other poster mentioned one-dot low and hit wires.
I was pretty sure that wouldn't be the case.
The NTSB reports mention nothing of being one-dot low and the after-accident flight inspection report reports clear of obstuctions - which means they flew the entire approach MORE THAN two-dots low and cleared all obstructions.
The other poster mentioned one-dot low and hit wires.
I was pretty sure that wouldn't be the case.
The NTSB reports mention nothing of being one-dot low and the after-accident flight inspection report reports clear of obstuctions - which means they flew the entire approach MORE THAN two-dots low and cleared all obstructions.
11-13-2014, 08:23 AM
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Originally Posted by USMCFLYR
Sounds like a approach in bad weather with turbulence and wind shifts where the pilot got too low on the glideslope.
The other poster mentioned one-dot low and hit wires.
I was pretty sure that wouldn't be the case.
The NTSB reports mention nothing of being one-dot low and the after-accident flight inspection report reports clear of obstuctions - which means they flew the entire approach MORE THAN two-dots low and cleared all obstructions.
The other poster mentioned one-dot low and hit wires.
I was pretty sure that wouldn't be the case.
The NTSB reports mention nothing of being one-dot low and the after-accident flight inspection report reports clear of obstuctions - which means they flew the entire approach MORE THAN two-dots low and cleared all obstructions.
Ever encountered a GS that was seriously out of adjustment? You would know...
