Air Asia A320 missing
12-28-2014, 02:52 PM
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Originally Posted by leardriver
Dude are you like 12 or something? I only do that trick when I'm approaching weather at night in VMC. Just to supplement and validate what's on the radar. Geez!!! Oh and by the way. I have flown all the oceans of the world too. But I don't have to brag about it. You must be a gem to work with.
Prime example of why I rarely ever post.
As a current A320 operator. I hope this one gets solved.
God speed.
Prime example of why I rarely ever post.
As a current A320 operator. I hope this one gets solved.
God speed.
My apologies; you are right in that blocking the lights out of your eyes does get you some more visual, but I wouldn't be doing that for hours on end.
12-28-2014, 03:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Tanker-driver
I'm also wondering what their gross weight/max alt was at the time. 38 seems awful high for a flight that was planned to be at 320 at that time. Is the Bus still having issues with pitot icing/airspeed unreliable/etc? Might be a factor as well considering the amount of moisture in the area at the time.
12-28-2014, 06:05 PM
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CNN is reporting that the captain had over 20,000 hours, the 6,000 hours mentioned earlier is time flown at Air Asia...!
It just amazes me how professional pilots are so quick to crucify fellow aviators way before the A/C is even found....!
It just amazes me how professional pilots are so quick to crucify fellow aviators way before the A/C is even found....!
12-28-2014, 07:21 PM
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Originally Posted by The Dominican
CNN is reporting that the captain had over 20,000 hours, the 6,000 hours mentioned earlier is time flown at Air Asia...!
It just amazes me how professional pilots are so quick to crucify fellow aviators way before the A/C is even found....!
It just amazes me how professional pilots are so quick to crucify fellow aviators way before the A/C is even found....!
Also, in that part of the world, it most certainly will be some collosal screwup in flying or judgment. I would be shocked to hear it wasn't the mechanical status of the aircraft.
12-29-2014, 04:36 AM
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Originally Posted by aviatorhi
And the gentlemen at air france had tens of thousands of hours as well, doesn't mean they knew what they were doing, just means they sat in a seat for a certain length of time.
Also, in that part of the world, it most certainly will be some collosal screwup in flying or judgment. I would be shocked to hear it wasn't the mechanical status of the aircraft.
Also, in that part of the world, it most certainly will be some collosal screwup in flying or judgment. I would be shocked to hear it wasn't the mechanical status of the aircraft.
Good pilots and weak pilots are everywhere and has very little to do with ethnicticity.
Get off that stupidity compadre, we crash airplanes and do stupid mistakes in the west just like anybody else
12-29-2014, 07:52 AM
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Originally Posted by aviatorhi
And the gentlemen at air france had tens of thousands of hours as well, doesn't mean they knew what they were doing, just means they sat in a seat for a certain length of time.
Also, in that part of the world, it most certainly will be some collosal screwup in flying or judgment. I would be shocked to hear it wasn't the mechanical status of the aircraft.
Also, in that part of the world, it most certainly will be some collosal screwup in flying or judgment. I would be shocked to hear it wasn't the mechanical status of the aircraft.
12-29-2014, 10:37 AM
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Originally Posted by Softpayman
Actually I think you'd find the AirAsia Captain with 20000hrs (14k of which other than A320) to have a significantly different background from the AF FO at the controls holding back stick through the 447 event. The Af FO did not have even 10k hrs and much less experience in conventionally controlled aircraft.
12-29-2014, 12:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Timbo
Tonight's news was saying they requested both FL380 and deviations, but were only cleared to deviate, not to climb. So the reduced stall margin up higher might not be a player, however....penetrating at 320 might not have been the best choice, obviously.
(I've been to Jakarta Control and that's exactly how I remember their displays... no question this is Jakarta).
What's alarming here is their groundspeed of 353. That UAE409 is a B777, and if they're cruising along at mach .84, that would mean 8501 is doing about 180 indicated... at FL363 and climbing... which can't be good.
12-29-2014, 01:00 PM
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It's not "alarming" if the ground speed is 353.
12-29-2014, 01:12 PM
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Originally Posted by ShyGuy
It's not "alarming" if the ground speed is 353.
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