You just blew my mind dood.

Out-frikkin-standing!!

"Logbook." I'm going to start reading the checklist like that on my next trip on Sunday.

"How can you reproduce in that kind of environment?"

Carl

Quick question.

SFO & LAX. SFO is a little easier to get to, but both about the same amount of time.

Going to NRT. SFO has 767 Business and LAX has 747 Business. Having never been on a 747 with the flat-bed config (never been on a 747 period), is it worth just a little more hassle to get to LAX?

Both flights have seats. I either drive to SFO or fly a commuter to LAX, I'll need to leave the house at the same time regardless. Is the ride in the 747 worth the extra leg?

Thx,
Humboldt

And thus gloopy and Check Essential expand the Brotherhood of The Profession.

GF

Couple of highlights from the DTW LEC chairman:

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This is a cost neutral contract for the company and a lost opportunity for Delta pilots.

“We have deep respect for the process of membership ratification. Our vote was based on the quality of the TA not on your right to vote on the agreement.” I voted no because:

The TA did not satisfy the guidance and parameters as communicated by line pilots and the MEC

Known money was left on the table. This one time savings is based on a change to the PWA allowing for increased 76 seat aircraft and parking of additional 50 seat aircraft and the associated maintenance costs

The MEC could have modified the direction [of the negotiating committee], but that did not occur.

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Carl

The humor is in the truth!!!

If you're really going to have to leave the house at the same time for either, I'd head to LAX and have a much more enjoyable trip across the Pacific.

There is a reason that there were a few articles in local newspapers when the west coast A-330 flights to NRT became a 767. The articles were not complimentary.

The entertainment selection and the seat itself is vastly superior.

Apparently, as per the C54 letter, nodded to in this, and from other inside sources, there was a push to go back and try to get more money before the big vote. They knew it had little wow factor.

The fact is that this thing is well below the contract survey, and that has been well acknowledge.

Well.. where to we go from here? Swallow this big pill and be glad we have something in our stomach now? Or fight it out and risk going hungry?

We have some strong leaders...and we had some not-so-strong. What I can't get beyond is at the tail of a rapid company push, we (collectivelly) accepted their first offer as being "all they'll be willing to offer."

I've been on the company side of this in another life and a negotiator....our acquiescence is startling. We took the first offer from a company that wanted to expedite negotiations. What, what, what? And we didn't go back with at least a cursory "no, they won't accept that" "how about this?" I'm not saying it can't get better....I'm saying how do we know?