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Tom, you're a smart guy and I've often valued your opinion but you're off in left field here. 10 years? The ULCC model is failing across the industry. Bottom line customers are sick of it. Channeling the late great Gordon Bethune they finally made the pizza so cheap that nobody wants to eat it. Allegiant is way above F9 and NK in terms of product and still has the travel company and its package deals to help, but all of the ULCCs are losing ground because people are sick of being nickel and dimed to death with poor on time performance and without enough flight frequency to get you there when things go wrong (you're now booked on the next flight out 3 days from now! Need help finding a room in town?)Originally Posted by tom11011
It takes as long as it takes, but under Andrew we will get a proper contract, not some piece of sh*t that only benefits the top pilots whom work rules will never apply to. And this is what this election is all about when you look at how they differentiate themselves. This new slate only concerns itself with eliminating the assessment, changing lawyers, and not letting Andrew stay on as negotiator even if he loses as President. That's it. You will get your quick contract under the new slate, I would imagine sometime in February. But its going to be a piece of sh*t only benefiting pilots such as yourself. Scope? Forget it Allegiant do what you want. Compensation? Sure will give you that but no soft pay so you still lose. Insurance? Nope, you get what you have now. Vacation? Nope, only 1 week available per base per pilot for the entire summer. Hours of Service? copy and paste. Scheduling? copy and paste. Reserve? Forget it, the entire company should be on reserve. Yeah sounds like a great deal to trade all that away so the top 300 pilots can move to $350 an hour as soon as humanly possible while never having to worry about any rules for the peasants.
What I'm getting at is if you want a complete rewrite to give G4 a legacy airline contract you should leave for a legacy. I had been at Allegiant a lot longer than you. I am now on 3rd year FO pay at my legacy, senior in my FL base, and making more than I did as a 50 percentile CA in SFB with unreal quality of life. My boat leaves the dock more now than it ever did. I've been fishing so much that I'm almost tired of it. Maybe you've got some skeleton in your closet that prevents you from leaving or maybe the golden handcuffs feel a little too tight, but I'm telling you it's worth it.
As for Andrew you guys are fools if you put him back in. Right now he'll say whatever he has to say to keep this sweet gig. He's the highest paid pilot at allegiant and he doesn't turn a wheel. He'd be junior as hell in PHX. Maybe he'd actually set foot in PGD who knows. He's obviously gotten drunk on the power too like some midget mob boss. He feeds off conflict with the company because that's his job security. He will keep lying to all of you but really the longer negotiations drag out the better because his gravy train keeps rolling and he can keep telling you not to change leadership in the middle of negotiations. As someone else said there will always be conflict and negotiations. It's time for you guys to put someone in there who hasn't been profiting personally off it. The economy is about to tailspin and if you don't get a contract in the next year you're going to lose the opportunity. You've already missed a contract cycle. Don't make it two. Put someone in there who will deliver, not make excuses and profit off your misfortune.