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And I am telling you that the Union is considering reducing the effectiveness of SAP, and given the Companies track record of making the Union look like fools by actually understanding how contract language works, if we give the company an inch where SAP is concerned you can pretty well wave goodbye to it.
If you don't believe me just look at how badly the union got played with the reserve "improvements", or how our union is still agreeing to these last minute convoluted holiday pay LOA's. Instead of holding their ground for a permanent agreement that actually includes reserves (aka half the pilot group).
Para 1: It's the difference between letting scheduling do something and forcing them to do something. We should have been forcing them to build all flying into hybrid/BU lines all along.Originally Posted by Approach1260
Scheduling could build out all the open time anytime they want, you don't need PBS for that. The company chooses not to do that now, why would they want to do it with PBS?And I am telling you that the Union is considering reducing the effectiveness of SAP, and given the Companies track record of making the Union look like fools by actually understanding how contract language works, if we give the company an inch where SAP is concerned you can pretty well wave goodbye to it.
If you don't believe me just look at how badly the union got played with the reserve "improvements", or how our union is still agreeing to these last minute convoluted holiday pay LOA's. Instead of holding their ground for a permanent agreement that actually includes reserves (aka half the pilot group).
Para 2: SAP as we know it is inconsistent with PBS. If you have evidence that proves otherwise please PM me. We need to "get the world" if they do anything to modify it, but it does us no good to preserve the name "SAP" if it is no different than FCFS.
Para 3: We must get the chance to poke holes in any system or language that is negotiated before it goes to vote, especially on PBS. If we had been offered a chance to tell the union how stupid the "reserve improvements" and bucket system (which is apparently being used as intended) were we might have been able to get some actual improvements. The same is true of the convoluted holiday pay rules, though it sounds like the union wanted something simpler/better for everybody.
Further PBS talk: The most junior person that gets a full flying line in a 2-round PBS bid given a 10% reservation for SAP (that is, the last 10% of flying is unassigned) would have had access to every available OT trip. The most senior person would have had access to every available trip. Aside from a really poor bid or a newly developed family situation why would the senior person want any of the worst 10% of our flying? They wouldn't. If they bid right, they should want for nothing.
As you work down seniority you're faced with trade-offs, do you want weekends off or 90 hours credit? Do you want to have your kid's birthday off or to not fly a 200 at all in the month? Are you willing to bid a reserve/hybrid line that accommodates your desired days off or do you want to tell your SO that you're missing their holiday party again? Do you want to bid min credit in your vacation month to have 22 days off or make money by bookending your vacation with trips?
Moral of the story: under PBS you will have to make rules that give you what is most important to you. If you don't provide adequate rules to get the ONE thing you most desire, it's on you (or you're just too junior to get what you want and probably would have been R2/BU/RES and working the leftovers anyway).