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#81

Pogey Bait , 05-10-2014 05:43 PM

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What sorority range are the downgrades?

#82

mooney , 05-10-2014 05:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Pogey Bait

What sorority range are the downgrades?

Mostly tri-delts, with a few Chi O's and AD Pi's thrown in.

#83

80ktsClamp , 05-10-2014 05:54 PM

Da Hudge

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Originally Posted by mooney

Mostly tri-delts, with a few Chi O's and AD Pi's thrown in.

The Phi Moos are over on the goatee thread.

#84

MrMustache , 05-10-2014 05:57 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Pogey Bait

What sorority range are the downgrades?

#85

Yumyum , 05-10-2014 07:04 PM

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The big damn difference in this crap Endeavor contract is timing. Comair gonzo... Next...a do or die strategically placed **** sandwich contract sponsored by yours truly ALPA. Keep in mind, the work rules are superior to other regionals except ASA ,Skywest and Express...When your ALPA reps are calling your land line to vote yes, or we will be Comaired ...*** are we supposed to do? Are you going to offer me 10 years longevity at ASA? Express? Skywest? NOPE. You'll take our planes and won't look back....because that's the nature of regional pilots and ALPA. 10 year XJ guys lost about 4 years seniority...and in return they received a time stamped *** Bloch award...reserve after 10 years....all while watching Colgan guys hired 4 years after us holding lines. I'm just saying... you got something to say to me in the terminal...well go ahead because I got something to say also. I will however welcome you on my Jumpseat, and gladly discuss this whirlwind industry.

#86

AlaskaBound , 05-10-2014 07:48 PM

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Originally Posted by bedrock

I don't have a dog in this fight, but thank you for including ASA/ XJT in your excrement comparison. From First to Worst, courtesy SureJet mgmt! Mama we all crazy now!

CaptainTony brought it up. I was just correcting his mistake.

#87

Captain Tony , 05-11-2014 05:11 AM

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Originally Posted by cencal83406

April DOT:

ExpressJet (EV)
Endeavor Air(9E)

Flights Scheduled
20167
23073

Completion Factor
98.5%
98.6%

Controllable CF
99.2%
99.8%

D0
66.7%
75.7%

D30
86.0%
91.9%

A0
64.6%
72.0%

A 14
79.5%
85.3%

LoadFactor
82.9%
80.9%

BTR
76.5%
76.1%

First Flight D0
82.5%
86.2%

Yes, thanks to the L-XJT United operation.

Hey... since you've gotten so good at cutting and pasting, how 'bout posting our pay scales side by side? KThxbye.

#88

cencal83406 , 05-11-2014 05:31 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Captain Tony

Yes, thanks to the L-XJT United operation.

Hey... since you've gotten so good at cutting and pasting, how 'bout posting our pay scales side by side? KThxbye.

Thanks to the United operation? You are in serious denial. That is Delta work only. You can find it too. Go to DeltaNet and look up Delta Connection performance.

Code:

Endeavor
Year   CRJ900	CRJ200
12	 87	 82
11	 85	 79
10	 82	 77
9	 80	 75
8	 78	 72
7	 75	 70
6	 73	 68
5	 71	 66
4	 69	 64
3	 67	 63
2	 65	 61
1	 63	 59

Code:

ExpressJet 
Year           CRJ900	CRJ200
18	 	 108	 100
17	 	 105	 98
16	 	 102	 96
15	 	 99	 93
14	 	 96	 90
13	 	 93	 87
12	 	 90	 85
11	 	 87	 82
10	 	 84	 80
9	 	 81	 77
8	 	 78	 75
7	 	 76	 73
6	 	 74	 70
5	 	 71	 68
4	 	 69	 66
3	 	 67	 64
2	 	 65	 60
1	 	 63	 57

Difference of $3 an hour at "year 12". Why do you even have year 18 at a regional anyway? If you are year 12 or more you have failed your family by not securing a real job versus being an at-risk contractor.

#89

Bozo , 05-11-2014 06:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Bucking Bar

He does an excellent job overall. Everybody figured the Endeavor pilots had just harmed themselves and if that is what they wanted it was nobody else's business.

I think the extent of which management patterned down was not anticipated.

But, Moak is right. In the end the market will provide the solution. It is that kind of being right that got him elected to the highest position in our association.

No it was ALPA politics along with his speech impediment that got him in.

#90

Packrat , 05-11-2014 06:59 AM

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Originally Posted by cencal83406

Why do you even have year 18 at a regional anyway? If you are year 12 or more you have failed your family by not securing a real job versus being an at-risk contractor.

I'm always amazed at the attitude that Regional flying is merely a stepping stone. All flying is a pyramid. The number of jobs available declines as you move up.

There are plenty of guys who dream of flying International widebodies and never progress past the left seat of an RJ.