Why not just get rid of the entire seniority system, since it's so unfair, especially to the junior folks?

We could award the good contractual perks to the ones that work the most days at straight pay, call in sick the least, or some other random metric.

That'd be much fairer than using the day you were hired.

It is a loophole, I get it. One I feel should be closed. Simmer down, Francis. I suggested none of what you are implying.

What are your thoughts on cartels?

You’re right. Let’s stick with the seat lock option. You bid down, you’re locked until retirement.

No restrictions....

If you want to commute and run the risk of not getting back to your home domicile for awhile to bid vacation, then go for it. Restrictions always have unintended consequences.

Thou it will warm my heart to see ATL vacancies in the negative for October...

LOL... "A loophole"?

"Simmer Down Francis"?

I'm not the one that suggested that others exercising their contractual seniority rights is akin to "thievery" or "buggery".


Far more of a boogieman than a reality.

Our attempts at restricting them, as usual, have only hurt the non cartel folks.

So from reading through this thread it appears that the Atlanta base slots for pilots has gone from 12 years to 1 year roughly?

I'm currently a pilot in the military and am researching the airlines, so I'm still learning all the terms. I'm not hitting 20 for 3 more years though, so everything is rather speculative for me right now. That being said, I already live in Atlanta so if that is the case it's good news.

The time to get into Atlanta has dropped significantly since the Atlanta seniority list hit the bottom of the former AirTran pilots. A year is a good guess, but seniority movement in ATL will be anemic because nobody is leaving or retiring. PHX and MCO are in similar situations for different reasons.

We will see what occurs in PHX with the opening of LAX.