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Had two guys in my class quit in the middle of training to go to FDX. I know if at least 5 more that have done it this alone. Different strokes for different folks. Either or is a win-win.

Lots of day flying at FedEx and a lot less block.
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Quote: That's cool...but weird. You're clearly second guessing crap. Most don't ask questions like that.


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Overreact much? Geez......
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Quote: Overreact much? Geez......
No it’s not an overreaction! SWA is the best and only airline worth being at. Those who leave should be shunned forever! Even though we know they really wish they were here so they could work more!
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Quote: Had two guys in my class quit in the middle of training to go to FDX. I know if at least 5 more that have done it this alone. Different strokes for different folks. Either or is a win-win.

Lots of day flying at FedEx and a lot less block.
I’d leave too if I was in my first few years. Relative to FDX we generally work bankers’ hours but when we do work we work our a$$ off.

In a way, I don’t mind it because I loathe coming to work and being unproductive, but the 4(+) legs a day stuff is NOT for me. I’d gladly do the around the world stuff if I was at FDX or UPS.

At least we’re not being unproductive like the Legacy narrowbody trips. Although the lazy man trips are there at SWA as well if anyone wants to do them.
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Eh. When I was at USAir on the DC9 we did about 4 legs a day. On the 737, 3 or 4 legs a day was common. I miss some of the longer overnights in the islands but generally speaking I wouldn’t bid long flights even if I worked at an airline that did them. I admit that it bugs me here that after you do a trans-con they add on a turn. I have this fear that the Hawaii trips will start with a Vegas turn or something! If I’ve flown 5+ hours I’d really like more than 35 minutes on the ground to get the blood flowing before I go flying again. Other than that though, I’m doing the same kind of flying I’d likely be doing if I were still at a legacy. The round the world stuff is for kids. I like being within one time zone of home.


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Quote: Eh. When I was at USAir on the DC9 we did about 4 legs a day. On the 737, 3 or 4 legs a day was common. I miss some of the longer overnights in the islands but generally speaking I wouldn’t bid long flights even if I worked at an airline that did them. I admit that it bugs me here that after you do a trans-con they add on a turn. I have this fear that the Hawaii trips will start with a Vegas turn or something! If I’ve flown 5+ hours I’d really like more than 35 minutes on the ground to get the blood flowing before I go flying again. Other than that though, I’m doing the same kind of flying I’d likely be doing if I were still at a legacy. The round the world stuff is for kids. I like being within one time zone of home.


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Spot on. Except in the long run, I don't think Hawaii trips will start with some mainland turn, I think we'll probably be flying interisland as it's way more bang for your duty hour. You'll get to HNL and then you'll do a leg or two interisland before shuttin' her down for the night, and/or you'll do more interisland flying before heading back to the mainland as you'll have more duty time available.
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Quote: Spot on. Except in the long run, I don't think Hawaii trips will start with some mainland turn, I think we'll probably be flying interisland as it's way more bang for your duty hour. You'll get to HNL and then you'll do a leg or two interisland before shuttin' her down for the night, and/or you'll do more interisland flying before heading back to the mainland as you'll have more duty time available.
Maybe.

There's a reason that HI inter island was one of the codeshare exceptions in our contract.
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There's a reason that HI inter island was one of the codeshare exceptions in our contract.


And that was a colossal screwup that our union will only recognize once we start our Hawaii service.

It is mainline size aircraft that are serving the five principal airports in Hawaii (HNL, OGG, KOA, LIH and ITO). The codeshare should have only been allowed between smaller airports such as MKK, LNY, JHM...

Allowing Hawaiian to fly 717’s for us interisland is about as great of an idea as it is to allow Mesa to fly RJ’s for us in the mainland as well.
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Quote: And that was a colossal screwup that our union will only recognize once we start our Hawaii service.

It is mainline size aircraft that are serving the five principal airports in Hawaii (HNL, OGG, KOA, LIH and ITO). The codeshare should have only been allowed between smaller airports such as MKK, LNY, JHM...

Allowing Hawaiian to fly 717’s for us interisland is about as great of an idea as it is to allow Mesa to fly RJ’s for us in the mainland as well.
Yeah, but did you see the size of your RETRO check?
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Quote: Yeah, but did you see the size of your RETRO check?


Sure did! As a probie no less! [emoji12]
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