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Quote: Was that through private or federal student loans?
Federal. That’s the point SoFlo, DarkSide, and I tried to get across that its easier; and in my case, the only option to secure the financing for flying without having to spend years working in order to pay for the flying as I went along.
Do it however you can do it, banks weren’t lending me 60k in 2009. Maybe things have changed, but that was my experience.
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Quote: Or look at it this way.

There’s no reason for the majors to want to increase the retirement age. Those pilots approaching retirement age are the highest paid of all their pilots. There are numerous younger qualified pilots at the majors who’ll gladly take those CA seats in the wide bodies and cost them less money.

Looking at it from a financial standpoint, it’s much cheaper to retire those 65 year old captains, let a junior captain have that seat, and hire a regional captain as a new FO. Rinse and repeat.
When the sim capacity in the pipeline cannot handle X retirements/month multiplied by 8-10 training events (cascading equipment and seat changes from WB's all the way down to RJs) airlines will beg for age 65. May not solve the problem but it will help mitigate the damage a little for a couple years.

Remember airlines rent surge sim capacity as needed... but there's not going to be enough if they all want it, all at once.

In my observation, the legacies do not yet have a comprehensive plan which they can implement to handle peak retirements. It's not just ab initio training, it's the whole pipeline cessna to WB. They may just be hoping for a timely recession...
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Quote: Unless you want to go to Delta.
This is apparently true. They consider more than four years (five for engineering?) to be a sure sign of slacking. Not sure if that could be explained away at an interview. "So tell us then, why were you born to parents with a low net worth? And why should we hire you?"
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Quote: This is apparently true. They consider more than four years (five for engineering?) to be a sure sign of slacking. Not sure if that could be explained away at an interview. "So tell us then, why were you born to parents with a low net worth? And why should we hire you?"
That's just one of many discriminators at Delta. Plenty of people have been hired that took more time to graduate.
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Quote: This is apparently true. They consider more than four years (five for engineering?) to be a sure sign of slacking. Not sure if that could be explained away at an interview. "So tell us then, why were you born to parents with a low net worth? And why should we hire you?"
Nope. That is very wrong. Contrary to what many think, you can get to Delta with a low GPA or longer than normal time to graduate AS LONG as you had a good reason. Having to pay for college yourself by working is a perfectly good reason for a low GPA or taking 5 years to get a BA. They look at the entire picture.
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Quote: When the sim capacity in the pipeline cannot handle X retirements/month multiplied by 8-10 training events (cascading equipment and seat changes from WB's all the way down to RJs) airlines will beg for age 65. May not solve the problem but it will help mitigate the damage a little for a couple years.

Remember airlines rent surge sim capacity as needed... but there's not going to be enough if they all want it, all at once.

In my observation, the legacies do not yet have a comprehensive plan which they can implement to handle peak retirements. It's not just ab initio training, it's the whole pipeline cessna to WB. They may just be hoping for a timely recession...
Did you mean something above age 65? But very true there is only so much sim capacity even of you look worldwide. And it’s not as if the foreign airlines are not using their fair share.
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Quote: Getting a degree in aviation is a total waste of time and money.

Nobody should go to a 4 yr university to become a pilot.
Worked like a charm for me!
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Quote: Mine was all federal.
Quote: Federal. That’s the point SoFlo, DarkSide, and I tried to get across that its easier; and in my case, the only option to secure the financing for flying without having to spend years working in order to pay for the flying as I went along.
Do it however you can do it, banks weren’t lending me 60k in 2009. Maybe things have changed, but that was my experience.
Thanks for the information! Can either of you PM me with more details? About five years ago I looked at transferring from WVU to Embry-Riddle after two years. After getting accepted and submitting for the federal loans, they were going to give me the same amount I was already getting for a non-aviation program. If the feds are still giving out more money for aviation programs, I’ll look at going to a local community college or WVU Tech’s Aviation Management instead of why I’ve been doing. Thanks again, and I would appreciate any information!
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Quote: Thanks for the information! Can either of you PM me with more details? About five years ago I looked at transferring from WVU to Embry-Riddle after two years. After getting accepted and submitting for the federal loans, they were going to give me the same amount I was already getting for a non-aviation program. If the feds are still giving out more money for aviation programs, I’ll look at going to a local community college or WVU Tech’s Aviation Management instead of why I’ve been doing. Thanks again, and I would appreciate any information!
I’d stick to WVU, man. It’s cheaper and you can always transfer to a school like Liberty to finish up the bachelors degree
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Quote: I’d stick to WVU, man. It’s cheaper and you can always transfer to a school like Liberty to finish up the bachelors degree
I’ve finished my bachelors degree a few years ago. I was just looking at an alternative to how I’ve been paying for flight training. If it’s true you get more financial aid money for being in an aviation program, it’s worth considering. I looked at Liberty but their closest affiliate flight school is about 90 minutes away with no traffic.
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