Well, another week of negotiations and it's ground hog day again.

Company is asking for concessions on scope - I was unaware we even had scope 😂....

Just had someone go to envoy. Huge signing bonus, captain and flow ( more than we have now ) 100k first year pay.

17 day trips after 17 day trips - for 45k first year pay.

We are hiring - come on over.

Yes we have scope. Scope kept GSS out of MIA a few years back. If your working 17 days a month, the pay gotta be better that 45k. Ask your friends to submit details to the IBT anytime there is outsourced work. Keep the faith, they all capitulate in the end.

Whitecap is correct. Eventually they will capitulate. Hopefully sooner rather than later. Tough to compete with regionals offering 100k (second year pay 74k and you will be a reserve CA for a while). K4, Omni, and ATI hiring for those that can not seem to get on with a legacy or Southwest. It is truly a pilots world out there.

You can sit around and complain about the slowness of negotiations, or you can move on. It is a pilots choice today.

It hasn’t been done yet on this thread, but please don’t blame the length of negotiations on the union. Atlas is much tougher than anyone anticipated. Stay the course and reap the benefits or leave and start over. If I was a young pilot I would leave.

Trying hard to leave, its not as easy as I would have thought, but ill get out of this nightmare one way or another.

Hey, wasn't Atlas going to buy us out? An Atlas female FO even told us so...

And if she was hot you believed her 😀

Who is US? What company is that?

A little slow today aren't we?

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i’ll save you some detective work. He’s talking about K4