Fastest way to UPS or FedEx?

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Quote: ...oh " by management" huh, that must be true than. Hard not to be sarcastic, but c'mon bud, give yourself some credit, I don't believe you're that gullible..
Yeah, I guess I was not sarcastic enough. Maybe I should’ve added a “don’t drink the cool-aid” remark.

It’s not all gloom and doom though. If you can do DEC in the ATR and be based with an aircraft, life is good. Home every day. Three weeks on, one week off. Fly 2 hours per night and spend 8 hours in a hotel. Weekends home. There’s hardly any attrition among those guys.
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Quote: Nothing wrong with the example by itself - but you do have to replace "realistic" with "extremely optimistic 5-7 years"
C'mon Don't lie to the kids! it is an airline industry he is interested in afterall..
You forgot to through in a furlough or two, with years of non-flying and than years of trying to get back to flying..

So...honestly 12-20 years would be more on the "realistic" side.
I do appreciate hearing realistic numbers, this is a career that I'm 100% sure that I want to get into so I'm willing to accept all the bad for the good.
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Quote: I do appreciate hearing realistic numbers, this is a career that I'm 100% sure that I want to get into so I'm willing to accept all the bad for the good.
The key to this career field is to simply not step onto any land mines, and the playing field is loaded with them.
These land mines are disguised as failed check rides, upsetting the wrong people, vindictive employers that abuse PRIA, FAA LOI’s, a simple lapse in good judgement, etc. Keep a low profile, try really hard to not fail any check rides, avoid working for crappy outfits(incredibly hard to do just starting out), always be a professional, and most importantly, don’t backstab your fellow pilot. Small industry, people remember, and very often will be on the other side of the fence when you are trying to get in somewhere.
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Quote: Hey everyone, so I've got my commercial ticket approx. 370TT 280PIC almost done with multi and CFI and a year away from a 4 year degree. My goal is really just to get to one of these two companies as fast as possible and so far it seems like my best option would be to go Ameriflight once i get the hours, but I'm willing to take any path that will get me to my goal the fastest. For people working at UPS of FedEx, what were the paths y'all took and how long did it take you to get there?
I'd appreciate any advice y'all can give me.
It took me 18 years from zero hours total time to FedEx new hire. Results may vary but I was young for my new-hire class.
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Quote: Don’t use y’all.
One company is based in Memphis, TN, the other in Louisville, KY.
I’d say “y’all” should work for him/her just fine. As it should.. ;-)
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-finish your degree
-next goal is to get ATP as soon as possible, in the current hiring environment a lot of doors will open after that.
- I flew at Compass and there were a lot of pilots hired that just got their ATPs, same at other regionals.
-depending on which regional you go to, you could upgrade in 2-3 years or less. many things affect upgrade time so don't pick a company just because today they have the quickest upgrade.
best thing is to pick one that has a base close to where you live.
trust me, your life will be much happier.
-as soon as you are able, jumpseat on one of the cargo guys, the type of flying is not for everyone, don't go to a cargo airline just because they have a good pay scale.
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do you guys have anybody with heavy type rating and international experience but less than 1000 PIC?
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Quote: He can join Mountain Air Cargo or Empire and join the Purple Runway (google it) program! That’s the shortest way into a FedEx Mainline aircraft. That’s what we’ve been told by management on April the second.

Are you a FedEx pilot? I’d like to hear more about the Purple Runway program !
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-finish your degree.
-finish your degree.
-finish your degree.
I made that mistake and now I wish I finished it earlier.
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Quote: It took me 18 years from zero hours total time to FedEx new hire. Results may vary but I was young for my new-hire class.
Maybe you can help provide some guidance for us FedEx-hopefuls...

Is Mountain Air Cargo (MAC) or Empire Airlines the best route to FedEx?
-or-
Would a regional job be the better option?

Ultimately, whichever is going to provide you with 1000 TPIC, so in an industry where seniority is everything a 1 or 2 year difference between start dates means missing out on a substantial chunk of change...

If you were in our shoes today (single, no kids, willing to relocate) which route would you personally take?

All feedback is helpful! Thanks in advance
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