Hey guys,

I've been doing some research about this, but the information is scattered all over the forums and I would like to hear from other pilots who have done this move.

I'm close to 1000 121, but not so close to upgrade. I live in Florida and would like to stay here, so I've been considering the DEC at Envoy.
It is my understanding that all the DECs are being sent to LGA until you can hold some other base. How long is it currently taking for DECs to hold MIA? How bad was sitting reserve in LGA? Would you recommend doing this?

If I was to do this, I'd move up to LGA until I can hold MIA and then come back to FL, so commuting wouldn't be an issue.

I appreciate your input.

Not a DEC, but I'm thinking that at this point any answer would just be a guess. Don't see enough statistical data to make an educated estimate.
Sooner you come here the better your chances of getting to MIA sooner are, I'd think. If the company manages to generate a DEC hiring wave, better to be on the front side of it.

A buddy of mine was hired the end of November and was done with training about three months later. He transfers to MIA 1JUN. So threeish months and he didn't complain overly much. I am sure it was tough, but doable. He was already used to reserve from a previous company. DECs seems to be the focus of hiring, and they are coming, but not sure how much or if its too soon to really see what the final results will be.

The new program provides 3 full months of commuter hotels and business passes to and from LGA to home to make the situation easier for new FOs and CAs.

Just my observations..

With the new commuter provisions specifically for LGA, it may not stay the default junior location. I know I changed my displacement preferences because of it.

Do DECs get the signing bonus? Or should a DEC just plan min guarantee?

DECs get the biggest signining bonus, plus ~2500 if someone will split a referral with them, although I heard the referral program is ending.

I’m not sure how many DECs they plan to hire, but after getting the call for the CJO, the earliest class date was a little over two months away, just FYI.


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I think the likelihood of your buddy being displaced out of MIA is high. Especially with the wave of 2016 hires about to upgrade. Time will tell, but I highly doubt a new hire DEC will be able to hold anything other than LGA or ORD for much longer than 3 months. IMO

There would have to be a displacement bid for someone to be displaced out of their base. I don’t see that happening anytime soon and even when the CRJ’s finally go away the displacements probably won’t affect many.

I ve flown with captains displaced out of base and equipment. One was just off of ioe on dfw 145 that he vacancy bid for and found out on the trip i had with him that he was displaced to ord 175. He was not a DEC either.