“All the SFO commuters”. Not hardly, in fact a very few SFO commuters came back.

I think he may have meant the junior SFO commuters that were newhires within the last 12-18 months.

And maybe some from LAX as well.

I was not referring to people actually moving their household, I was referring to people moving their assignment to Denver. Given how little your seniority historically buys you in Denver, I definitely believe that a vast majority of the DEN based folks are driving to work. If you "have" to commute you may as well commute to where you get more for your seniority (ie SFO).

Now the good news for folks that actually live in Denver (or can at least have a reasonable drive to DIA) is that the Denver base has grown fairly substantially. This means that their seniority now can still be used if they want to commute, but at least now can "buy" you a little more QOL if you want to just drive to work.

Only true if the DEN pilot base grows, as well.

Denver captain positions went from 348 to 420 (appropriate for Denver) year over year (1905V Category Summary). A 20% increase! Only about 1/3 of that was the new 787 category. So we got that going for us.... which is nice.

1. Any educated guesses regarding upgrade time on any platform in Denver for guys who were recently hired 2018-19? I’ve heard Captain is still very senior, 14-15 years, what are the chances it drops down to sub 10 years for guys who have been hired in 2018-19?

2. It sounds like Denver may still be possible to get around a year in, is there reason to believe that will continue or was that an anomaly? Any estimates on how long before you could hold a line? How about a line with weekends off?

For a conservative answer you should use the seniority progression report. Look at total retirements and do the math how long it will take to hold Captain in your desired BES. Again this is a conservative estimate. I held Captain in DCA about 24 months before that conservative math said I should. This was based on early retirements, medical outs, and the growth plan for DCA. It’s tough to plan anything in this business, however I suggest you always be ready for a furlough.

There’s also the rumor Frontier will loose/give up some/all their gates. Maybe they’ll just use airstairs and save money? Kirby has talked about “aggressively” going after them.

And rumor two that the 787 will gain a few more destinations.

If either, both or something similar happens, who knows what will happen with Denver. Point is, you won’t know until it happens.

Check out the link below for the DIA Masterplan.

Wow!

https://www.flydenver.com/sites/defa...anBrochure.pdf

I just flew 2 trips with Airbus FO's who've only been here since Oct 18......They got the bid to DEN in Dec and were activated in Apr.

Ten runways and D and E concourses. That’s a lot of skiing.